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« Reply #90 on: May 31, 2017, 11:12:58 AM »
And I never thought I would ever read about a Peugeot car on US forums XD

Hey! I loved my little Red 205 XS ... my first car, and my first speeding ticket.

The Policeman was pretty much laughing at me, saying "Well, that was about as fast as this little thing goes, wasn't it!".  :wink:

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« Reply #91 on: May 31, 2017, 11:24:35 AM »
And I never thought I would ever read about a Peugeot car on US forums XD

Hey! I loved my little Red 205 XS ... my first car, and my first speeding ticket.

The Policeman was pretty much laughing at me, saying "Well, that was about as fast as this little thing goes, wasn't it!".  :wink:


25 KPH. Max.

I can go faster on my bike uphill.

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« Reply #92 on: May 31, 2017, 12:17:34 PM »
25 KPH. Max.

I can go faster on my bike uphill.

:)

You cheeky bastidge!  [-X

I'll have you know that I had the "Performance" model, with the super-powerful 1.3L 4-cylinder engine!

I could absolutely fly when going downhill.  :lol:

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« Reply #93 on: May 31, 2017, 01:17:17 PM »
The 205 T16 in final Evo forum would do 0-60 in three seconds. It's worth even an American's attention. :)

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« Reply #94 on: May 31, 2017, 01:31:38 PM »
Most well balanced and reliable of the group B cars but has absolutely nothing - and I mean nothing - to do with the actual production car. That being said the regular 205 GTI is a great fun to drive, propably the most fun FWD car of the 80s. Very eager and tossable. When the french get something right they really hit it out of the park.

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« Reply #95 on: May 31, 2017, 01:36:13 PM »
There isn't any in between. To most collectors in most scenes nothing bootleg is worth even the sum of its parts...dollar-wise, that is. In scenes where some kind of media or art is what's being collected then bootlegs are ESSENTIAL to that scene. There aren't enough copies of Sapphire or whatever to go around. However, all of these essential boots are basically worthless...

This is true, but there is one gaming exception I know of: gamers from the former communist eastern bloc actually collect the Famicom bootlegs that were smuggled in and circulated from that era because that is authentic to their nostalgia. And as far as I know, only the actual bootlegs from the era are considered authentic, which makes sense in a weird way.

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« Reply #96 on: May 31, 2017, 01:40:29 PM »
And Zeta I think you are being too kind for collectors of other articles. You wouldn't belive the collectarding one can encounter in the world of comic books, LEGO or vintage toys.
Although I agree about videogame collectors in general, there is that certain hording mentality that dictates you have to fill the shelves and buy everything.

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« Reply #97 on: May 31, 2017, 02:39:41 PM »
There isn't any in between. To most collectors in most scenes nothing bootleg is worth even the sum of its parts...dollar-wise, that is. In scenes where some kind of media or art is what's being collected then bootlegs are ESSENTIAL to that scene. There aren't enough copies of Sapphire or whatever to go around. However, all of these essential boots are basically worthless...

This is true, but there is one gaming exception I know of: gamers from the former communist eastern bloc actually collect the Famicom bootlegs that were smuggled in and circulated from that era because that is authentic to their nostalgia. And as far as I know, only the actual bootlegs from the era are considered authentic, which makes sense in a weird way.

I'd never heard of that before; that's fascinating.  As for who would pay hundreds for a modern day bootleg, that's beyond me.  Something like that with some amount of historical value seems different to me though.  I accidentally wound up with a King bootleg of a PC Engine game that had been masquerading as a real title a while back.  I kept it as a piece of curiosity even though I recognize that it's not the same as the actual game I was attempting to get.
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« Reply #98 on: May 31, 2017, 03:09:24 PM »
There isn't any in between. To most collectors in most scenes nothing bootleg is worth even the sum of its parts...dollar-wise, that is. In scenes where some kind of media or art is what's being collected then bootlegs are ESSENTIAL to that scene. There aren't enough copies of Sapphire or whatever to go around. However, all of these essential boots are basically worthless...

This is true, but there is one gaming exception I know of: gamers from the former communist eastern bloc actually collect the Famicom bootlegs that were smuggled in and circulated from that era because that is authentic to their nostalgia. And as far as I know, only the actual bootlegs from the era are considered authentic, which makes sense in a weird way.

I'd never heard of that before; that's fascinating.  As for who would pay hundreds for a modern day bootleg, that's beyond me.  Something like that with some amount of historical value seems different to me though.  I accidentally wound up with a King bootleg of a PC Engine game that had been masquerading as a real title a while back.  I kept it as a piece of curiosity even though I recognize that it's not the same as the actual game I was attempting to get.

TANGENT:

This reminded me of the "creatively inventive" gadgets folks in Cuba, Eastern Europe and Soviet Union built with scavenged parts/motors/circuits/etc.

It reveals creative solutions to dire living conditions.


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« Reply #99 on: May 31, 2017, 03:35:13 PM »
There isn't any in between. To most collectors in most scenes nothing bootleg is worth even the sum of its parts...dollar-wise, that is. In scenes where some kind of media or art is what's being collected then bootlegs are ESSENTIAL to that scene. There aren't enough copies of Sapphire or whatever to go around. However, all of these essential boots are basically worthless...

This is true, but there is one gaming exception I know of: gamers from the former communist eastern bloc actually collect the Famicom bootlegs that were smuggled in and circulated from that era because that is authentic to their nostalgia. And as far as I know, only the actual bootlegs from the era are considered authentic, which makes sense in a weird way.

When I said "unless the boot is of some kind of significance" I was thinking of Elmyr de Hory but your example is better.

I would totally collectard some Soviet-era Dendy shit, because I'm totally dumb to that scene and don't know anything about it, kinda like Turbo noobs on eBay.

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« Reply #100 on: May 31, 2017, 04:41:52 PM »
You wouldn't belive the collectarding one can encounter in the world of comic books, LEGO or vintage toys.


This could be due to the fact these items were originally marketed to children. Hence, there are a lot of child-like adults acting like children.
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« Reply #101 on: May 31, 2017, 06:07:25 PM »
. You wouldn't belive the collectarding one can encounter in the world of comic books, LEGO
Sadly it's true, I see a lot of apparently 'grown up' persons bragging about their newest acquisition of a LEPIN STAR WRNS set. Even new sets like the Lego Technic Porsche got bootlegged in no time, and there are all these silly Youtubers praising the 'quality', even though there are obvious quality issues (and possible health hazards for both customers, their kids and think of the poor people working in the Shenzen bootleg plants) with these. Also moral issues.

There are even bootlegs in the R/C car world, there had been fake Tamiyas since the late 80s (Fox/Killer) up to today (Baja Champ/Bonzer, and the numerous DF-03 Durga clones). Servos, too, there are more fake Futaba S3003 on the web than genuines. And the genuine one is just priced at 15 € per piece, so people must be pretty desperate and purposefully blind when they buy fakes in packs of four at ten bucks...

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« Reply #102 on: June 01, 2017, 03:02:09 AM »
Bootleg Legos?!?  That's nuts.
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« Reply #103 on: June 01, 2017, 04:08:19 AM »
And these dumb buyers throw bundles of money at Lego bootleggers like Lepin. For the sake of getting their hands not only on 'out of print' models of the recent decade, but also on bootlegs of new releases and even bootlegs of fanmade Lego creations (stolen from various fansites as well as Lego Ideas).

This is especially stupid, since if there's a specific model you crave for, just download the instructions from Brickset.com or Peeron.com and build it yourself with your stock of parts and the missing ones provided by e.g. Bricklink. It may not have every sticker, printed part or minifigure. But those people who are willing to buy Lego bootlegs don't seem to care for genuineness anyway -  so what's the point?!
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« Reply #104 on: June 01, 2017, 04:55:00 AM »
And these dumb buyers throw bundles of money at Lego bootleggers like Lepin. For the sake of getting their hands not only on 'out of print' models of the recent decade, but also on bootlegs of new releases and even bootlegs of fanmade Lego creations (stolen from various fansites as well as Lego Ideas).

This is especially stupid, since if there's a specific model you crave for, just download the instructions from Brickset.com or Peeron.com and build it yourself with your stock of parts and the missing ones provided by e.g. Bricklink. It may not have every sticker, printed part or minifigure. But those people who are willing to buy Lego bootlegs don't seem to care for genuineness anyway -  so what's the point?!

I am still not getting the Lego bootlegs - are the blocks recycled original blocks thrown together as a kit, or are the bootleggers manufacturing their own blocks for the bootleg set?