Turbografx-Mini coming to the US in 2018? (Fantasy OBEY)

[esteban]

Am I the only who who isn't interested at all in any of the mini game systems? They all just seem pointless to me since they are all emulation. So if they are emulation, why not just use a Nintendo Wii, Original Xbox, raspberie pie, or PC to emulate the games. I also think the same when it comes to the Retron 5 and or Retro Freak. They are both emulation so why bother when much cheaper emulation options are available.

The only thing good about a Turbografx mini is it would be any easy way for people who do not own any tg16 games or hardware to get into the system. Especially with the difficulty of tracking down some of these games now.

I think most folks who have real hardware or who don't mind playing at desktop/laptop agree with you.

Clearly, Nintendo is aiming these products at a MAINSTREAM MARKET. Never, ever was their motive to appeal to the niche sub-sub culture of _____. Nintendo knows that *no* product would satisfy the finicky tastes of "enthusiasts"....

The market is really aimed at folks who want something:
(1) dead simple (plug-n-play) on modern HDTV

(2) to give to their kids (my kids are older, so now I allow them, and their friends, play on my consoles, but I am worried that they abuse the crap out of stuff and might break something one day...but I try not to think about that and hope for the best)

(3) novelty/nostalgia  (I don't *need* more stuff, but, damn, I was willing to buy the NES and SNES because I am curious—the build quality and interface is far superior to all the crappy Intellivision, Dendy (j/k), Genesis, Atari 2600, Colecovision, etc. "clones" I have tried over the years...)


Personally, I stopped emulating a long time ago (early 2000's) because it was a distraction from all the consoles and handhelds I owned...and I realized that I love the unique, tactile experience of stock machines and stock pads/controllers.

However, the only way I'll be able to play arcade games again will be via emulation...so, I know that I'll be heading back to emulation one of these years...plus, the only way I'll play all the Japanese computer platforms will be via emulation. Emulation is in my future, definitely, but I'm in no rush—I think I am the outlier. Most folks are impatient and want everything. Now.



 

[_joshuaTurbo]

The European mini would include zero games plus one PCE import.

Nah ... it would be chocked full of good Japanese games that never made it to the American market.

Don't forget our thriving grey-import PCE market in Europe! 

We had the same thing in Canada and the U.S.

My first CD games were Super Darius, Golden Axe and Sidearms Special in 1990.

Did you hear about the PCE-Mini?

[Mas]

I honestly think it would be a great idea but make the system look like a mini us tg16. Hell keep the controllers the same and same length since they are only like 4-5 ft.

But you have to remember this the average American growing up in the 90's may have never seen or played a tg16. So they have no idea what its about and you have to get games on the list that everyone has heard or knows so the main ones would be that all my friends or anyone who has been a gamer growing would know
bonk
keith courage
legendary axe
r type
vigilante
splatter house
alien crush
and for imports the two biggest names would be of course
street fighter
castlevania

Then you can fill the rest with shmups and games like neoutipa and other stellar games.
The negative side on this would be that the actual system and games might jump even more in price because now the average gamer would look deep into the tg16 and find out what a gem and the library is. Or it could just sell out the tg16 mini like the nes to where the consumer wouldn't even think of buying a tg16 because of the games and just get the mini

[Necromancer]

... why bother when much cheaper emulation options are available?

Are they really cheaper?  A pc is only cheaper if you already own one, but they're usually not something you have (or want) in the living room. A pi wouldn't be much cheaper, not by the time you bought it, a power supply, a nice case, an sd card, and a pair of controllers.  A used Wii or Xbox would be cheaper, but not by much if you want a pair of proper "classic" controllers.

Also, cost isn't the only factor.  Any of those options could save some money, but none of 'em will work right out of the box or be as user friendly.

[Lost Monkey]

...I totally forgot about Legendary Axe and Neutopia...

[glazball]

Am I the only who who isn't interested at all in any of the mini game systems? They all just seem pointless to me since they are all emulation.

<<raises hand>> I'm not interested either, but I was happy to see so many people excited about NES games when the NES Classic came out.  However I already have all the games and never stopped playing them, so I wasn't the target market for it.  I admit seeing Starfox 2 included on the SNES Classic is pretty cool, but I'm still going to pass.

CHINA WARRIOR IS NOT A BEAT EM UP.

I can't find the shoot button.  HALP!!

[Black Tiger]

... why bother when much cheaper emulation options are available?

Are they really cheaper?  A pc is only cheaper if you already own one, but they're usually not something you have (or want) in the living room. A pi wouldn't be much cheaper, not by the time you bought it, a power supply, a nice case, an sd card, and a pair of controllers.  A used Wii or Xbox would be cheaper, but not by much if you want a pair of proper "classic" controllers.

Also, cost isn't the only factor.  Any of those options could save some money, but none of 'em will work right out of the box or be as user friendly.

A limited number of games makes it the most expensive option no matter what.

[Desh]

Damn it's tough to whittle down a list even only using U.S. stuff.  To keep a good mix of genres on it this would have to be my list:

1. Air Zonk
2. Blazing Lazers
3. Bloody Wolf
4. Bonk's Adventure
5. Bonk's Revenge
6. Cadash
7. Dungeon Explorer
8. Dungeon Explorer II
9. Final Lap Twin
10. Gate of Thunder
11. Last Alert
12. Legendary Axe
13. Lords of Thunder
14. Magical Chase
15. Military Madness
16. Neutopia
17. Neutopia II
18. Ninja Spirit
19. Splatterhouse
20. Y's I&II

21. JP exclusive Rondo of Blood
22. Wishful thinking Neutopia III

[sirhcman]

Damn it's tough to whittle down a list even only using U.S. stuff.  To keep a good mix of genres on it this would have to be my list:

DoxPhile chat said you were dead last night! Where have you been?!

[Desh]

Damn it's tough to whittle down a list even only using U.S. stuff.  To keep a good mix of genres on it this would have to be my list:

DoxPhile chat said you were dead last night! Where have you been?!

Ridiculously busy.  Between all of kids' sports and other activities, I got into computers and have been building like a madman (I got really good at reviving dead GPU's BTW) and also bought a shitty golf cart I'm rebuilding/ modding because we can drive them on the streets in my area now.  Also, being a parasite is kind of a full time thing.

[Gredler]

...also bought a shitty golf cart I'm rebuilding/ modding because we can drive them on the streets in my area now...

Danm I've seen people in my neighborhood driving them around and it makes me jellllllly. Enjoy man, and good to see you around

[Necromancer]

A limited number of games makes it the most expensive option no matter what.

True, though there's surely some value in using the roms legally, plus there's always a chance of a Turbob mini being hackable to add more roms.

[Black Tiger]

A limited number of games makes it the most expensive option no matter what.

True, though there's surely some value in using the roms legally, plus there's always a chance of a Turbob mini being hackable to add more roms.

After paying for the same games so many times over and over and owning physical copies of all of them, it's hard to justify paying for the artistic license of the same games again and again.

I never remember what these things go for, but $30 tops seems fair.

Technically, playing "pirated" roms on one of these when you own physical versions should be "legal". Plus music, film, game, musc industries are the worst for using the works of others without permission and even Nintendo put a SMB rom that a fan made in the last Nintendo box.

We've just become accustomed to being gouged by game companies, particularly with restricted non-physical games.

[Keith Courage]

... why bother when much cheaper emulation options are available?

Are they really cheaper?  A pc is only cheaper if you already own one, but they're usually not something you have (or want) in the living room. A pi wouldn't be much cheaper, not by the time you bought it, a power supply, a nice case, an sd card, and a pair of controllers.  A used Wii or Xbox would be cheaper, but not by much if you want a pair of proper "classic" controllers.

Also, cost isn't the only factor.  Any of those options could save some money, but none of 'em will work right out of the box or be as user friendly.

I'm just saying that almost everyone has a computer. The same could be said that anyone who is into video games most likely already owns an xbox or nintendo wii. Thus making it the cheaper option. Not to mention being able to emulate multiple game systems on them instead of just one. Heck, even the sega dreamcast will emulate your NES mini games with no modding whatsoever.

I suppose if one really needs the feel of the original controllers then the mini route would be a better option. Although most people who are anal enough to require the original controllers would just get themselves the real system to begin with anyways. 

I've seen many youtube videos of game collectors getting excited about the snes mini and I always think to myself why. Especially when you can basically see all the original games that come installed on the mini on their own shelf in the background of their video.

Yes, I do agree that the mainstream casual gaming market for these makes sense because the type of people who would end up buying one most likely don't own the original system in the first place.

[Michirin9801]

... why bother when much cheaper emulation options are available?

Are they really cheaper?  A pc is only cheaper if you already own one, but they're usually not something you have (or want) in the living room. A pi wouldn't be much cheaper, not by the time you bought it, a power supply, a nice case, an sd card, and a pair of controllers.  A used Wii or Xbox would be cheaper, but not by much if you want a pair of proper "classic" controllers.

Also, cost isn't the only factor.  Any of those options could save some money, but none of 'em will work right out of the box or be as user friendly.

Now to be fair, the Wii is pretty user-friendly and extremely easy to hack... I'm kind of a moron when it comes to technology (well, not really, I'm just very impatient and don't like reading instructions) but I've been able to hack mine all on my own more than once! It's as simple as putting the right files in the right folders on your SD card on your PC, then taking the SD card and putting it on your Wii, and then opening the SD Card Menu, press A a bunch of times and you're done!
I think even mom would be able to do it if given the instructions...

After that it's all a matter of getting the emulators and ROMs/ISOs you want, and even that is easy! If you got Homebrew Browser you can download the emulators directly from your Wii (if your Wii is connected to the Internet) and even a few Homebrew games like a port of Doom for example, as for getting the Roms, I don't know if you can do it on the Wii itself, I think not, but again, it's as easy as putting your SD card or external HDD back on your PC, putting the right files in the right folders, then putting it back on your Wii and you're done! The most complicated thing I've ever had to do on my Wii was loading the Sega CD and TurboGrafx CD bioses on GenPlusGX and WiiMednafen respectively, which btw was MUCH easier than doing it in their PC equivalents! (Not to mention they run pretty much flawlessly)

Granted, I know not every casual or kid will find a hacked Wii to be as user-friendly as a Plug & Play that looks like a little NES/SNES/TG-16, and I know for a fact that there's a LOT of people out there who are exponentially worse than me with technology, (and have way more money to spare) so obviously they are the market, not us who already have means to play a lot more NES/SNES/PCE games (be them legitimate or not)