Author Topic: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles  (Read 7999 times)

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #135 on: September 19, 2017, 05:24:18 PM »

I don't understand why everyone in the gaming community has to hate anyone who does it differently than themselves.

I don't think I said anything like that, atleast I didn't mean to. Each to their own. Getting enjoying out of these games should be the ultimate goal whatever the aproach.

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #136 on: September 20, 2017, 02:36:19 AM »
I don't understand why everyone in the gaming community has to hate anyone who does it differently than themselves.

Well then you must be f*cking retarded because the answer to that question is obvious.

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #137 on: September 20, 2017, 02:50:09 AM »
I have never seen the big appeal of these Everdrives and similar devices, if you are not going to buy the original game the emulation for these systems from the 8- and 16bit era is so good these days. And there are adapters that lets you use the original controllers.

It's not an either/or type of thing.  You can buy lots of real games and an everdrive to play ridiculously priced hueys, homebrew games, and translation patched titles.

And a flash cart sort of defeats the purpose on playing real games on a real hardware anyway. if you have the whole library at your fingertip its hard to get excited about any particular game.

That sounds silly.  I have hundreds of real games at my fingertips, but I can still get excited.

Maybe you're getting old and need a little blue pill?  :mrgreen:
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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #138 on: September 20, 2017, 03:54:49 AM »
I don't understand why everyone in the gaming community has to hate anyone who does it differently than themselves.

Well then you must be f*cking retarded because the answer to that question is obvious.

Damn, guess the cat's outta the bag!
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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #139 on: September 20, 2017, 07:37:44 AM »
Everyone, everyone! RETARD everyone! Right here!

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #140 on: September 20, 2017, 10:54:35 AM »
Everyone, everyone!


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BT: Look at how the fake SFII' carts instantly sold out and were immediately listed on eBay before the flippers even took possession. Look at Nintendo's overpriced bricks. Look at the typical forum discussions elsewhere.

You can't tell most retro gamers anything!

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« Reply #141 on: October 13, 2017, 10:30:59 AM »
The article has been updated with more hard facts:
https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/


Also, this:
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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #142 on: October 13, 2017, 11:37:26 AM »
So basically we shouldn't be using everdrives in our consoles. Where do I sign up for the class action lawsuit against krikzz?

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #143 on: October 13, 2017, 12:53:25 PM »
The article has been updated with more hard facts:
https://db-electronics.ca/2017/07/05/the-dangers-of-3-3v-flash-in-retro-consoles/


Also, this:



Instead of more hard facts, it now says that everyone else was right about flashcarts not destroying your hardware, so go ahead and continue using them.
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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #144 on: October 13, 2017, 01:02:27 PM »
This video is terrible.

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #145 on: October 13, 2017, 09:03:44 PM »
Either you didn't get it or you haven't watched it at all. It parodies pretty much every lie and trolling of mindless pissed off Krikkz' fans out there.

Also, funny how people who know basically nothing about electronics are trying to argue with electronics engineers. I've got four years of training in electronics by myself, including time spent in an electronics repair shop for TV, radio, HiFi stuff as well as maintaining broadcast systems in hospitals and hotels.
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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #146 on: October 14, 2017, 03:11:33 AM »
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Let’s be clear that this article is NOT fear mongering, nor should the article be twisted in that way. In the article’s introduction I clearly state that I am an Everdrive user myself. There is no hidden agenda, my only intent was to inform people of a design flaw. Also, the explosion picture above is meant to represent how you should dispose of your NES and Neogeo Multicarts (not Flashcarts), after all, these are the only which I recommend to not use and to “burn”.

TL;DR

Stop using your Aliexpress multicarts, keep using your Everdrives – but know the design flaw.

This seems reasonable.

:)

Maybe I’ll load some ROMZ on an SD card and use my TED tomorrow?

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #147 on: October 14, 2017, 04:04:24 AM »
Late to the party here. I didn't even know this was a thing.

In my case I've had that AliExpress Neo 160 something in 1 multicart for the longest time. To keep my shit intact, I need to toss it?  wut.
I'll live in a state of fear knowing the danger, but I'll risk it.

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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #148 on: October 14, 2017, 04:32:29 AM »
Either you didn't get it or you haven't watched it at all. It parodies pretty much every lie and trolling of mindless pissed off Krikkz' fans out there.

Also, funny how people who know basically nothing about electronics are trying to argue with electronics engineers. I've got four years of training in electronics by myself, including time spent in an electronics repair shop for TV, radio, HiFi stuff as well as maintaining broadcast systems in hospitals and hotels.

At least you aren't mixing your educated reasoning with trolling and desperate cyber fame seeking.

dbe is in competition with krikkz, the specific product they're trying to pretend isn't relevent is something krikkz sold before dbe. Accusing your competitor of being incompetent or intentionally deceptive while lying about conflict of interest makes him guilty of what he's accusing someone else of.

Instead of simply educating people to be aware of a potential issue which history had already proven to be extremely unlikely, he went over the top to try to garner fame while taking down someone who's success he seems to be very jealous of.

He seems to only be pivoting now because of the backlash from users who have logged millions of hours on these ticking time bombs without the fear mongered results, combined with the lack of increased sales in his own products.

It's all fine and well for government scientist Dr. Yamuka to declare that science has proven that women's brain is size of squirrel's. Even if the science shows that it is theoretically likely to be true, we have billions of women in the real world who prove otherwise. That is real science that educated people value no less than theory.
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Re: The Dangers of using 3.3V Flash Carts in Retro Consoles
« Reply #149 on: October 14, 2017, 02:50:01 PM »
Well that just doesn’t make sense. Brain size is a nature/science thing. You can’t know it without an autopsy and a measuring tape. This is about specified ratings of human made products. You don’t need to deduce or uncover anything, just read the specs, this shit is wrong. God doesn’t give out specs, science is therefore needed.

However, pretty much everyone who’s ever built a modern flash cart just looked at that and went, “Well, the parts I need don’t exist, I can’t make them the right way, I’ll build it out of this.”

Then tons of people bought them and if there were any issues nobody noticed so it didn’t matter. Newer designs show improvement.

“Use sparingly” seems like good advice. I don’t know where all this drama bullshit comes from (it ALWAYS shows up from somewhere). It seems like The Comunity is required to pick a side and stick with it for life on every issue but there just isn’t one here unless you go looking for it. This is a learning opportunity for the whole scene.

It’s also weird how people seem to think they’re a genuine Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective because they noticed money is somehow involved, then it’s use as irrefutable evidence to prove that someone sucks...leaving aside that every console and pro console game dev house was far more profit seeking (and shifty)  than any dude making stuff like this.

Late to the party here. I didn't even know this was a thing.

In my case I've had that AliExpress Neo 160 something in 1 multicart for the longest time. To keep my shit intact, I need to toss it?  wut.
I'll live in a state of fear knowing the danger, but I'll risk it.

Can you please live in a state of fear that doesn’t destroy perfectly good main boards with garbage just because you’re too cheap or poor to buy real games? There will always been a supply of junk to plug into a Neo but the boards are OOP.
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