Convince me I was right to buy 1941

[blueraven]

It's his money, and he wanted the game for a billion years... he said he was willing to break the piggy bank because he couldn't find it for cheaper.

I don't see the issue here, Ark, other than the general bullshit of the Turbo Market. I remember paying about $60 for that game back in 2004 or so, and then selling it for i think $80 to a forum member in 2008 who offered me that price.

Is your argument that by paying $200 for the game that its inflating the price?

[soop]

You f*cked up.

If you have to have a bunch of assclowns on a forum convince you that it was a good idea, you f*cked up.

Nah, I feel pretty good about it right now.  And besides, for the most part, these guys are legit A1 assclowns.

You've fawned over that game for how many years?

I'd say the purchase was justified.

I felt like an a$$hole paying $75 for terraforming, and its one of my favorite shooters.

Yup, I remember it being nearly as expensive ever since I set my eyes on it, although some recent sales did blow my mind a little, which convinced me to pull the trigger.  It's not something I'm likely to ever do again either, but I feel like I made the right choice.

This feels like going to a restaurant and ordering decent wine and the most expensive steak, except I get to keep eating the steak whenever I feel like it.  It is a lot of money, but you can't take it with you.

[Necromancer]

It's his money, and he wanted the game for a billion years... he said he was willing to break the piggy bank because he couldn't find it for cheaper.

I don't see the issue here, Ark, other than the general bullshit of the Turbo Market. I remember paying about $60 for that game back in 2004 or so, and then selling it for i think $80 to a forum member in 2008 who offered me that price.

Is your argument that by paying $200 for the game that its inflating the price?

Nah, the argument is that nothing we say matters.  If it's not worth it to soop, he never should've bought it; nothing we say will really change the equation.


To add to what I said earlier: all SGX stuff is rather pricey.  If the games aren't worth buying (a valid argument when comparing their value to the rest of the PCE library), don't buy the system at all.

Or get a flashcart. 

[soop]

It's his money, and he wanted the game for a billion years... he said he was willing to break the piggy bank because he couldn't find it for cheaper.

I don't see the issue here, Ark, other than the general bullshit of the Turbo Market. I remember paying about $60 for that game back in 2004 or so, and then selling it for i think $80 to a forum member in 2008 who offered me that price.

Is your argument that by paying $200 for the game that its inflating the price?

Nah, the argument is that nothing we say matters.  If it's not worth it to soop, he never should've bought it; nothing we say will really change the equation.


To add to what I said earlier: all SGX stuff is rather pricey.  If the games aren't worth buying (a valid argument when comparing their value to the rest of the PCE library), don't buy the system at all.

Or get a flashcart. 

That is another good point, the Super Grafx to me as a kid was up there with the Neo Geo.  eBay didn't exist, and obviously me being 11 or so never had the money to import.  To own the system and every super huey is nothing short of a childhood dream come true. I probably hold it in higher regard than most.  Same with the GT, and it's why my collection is like 90% Hucard

[yxlplig]

If it's a game you like and will revisit for years I don't see a problem with it. If it's 2030 and I want to play Dungeon Explorer 2, Bonk 3, Musha Aleste etc, do I really care about the $200 in 201X money I spent on those games? You can always make more money.

I wouldn't call it an asset though. You aren't collecting a monthly payment from someone because you own a video game. And if you resell it you're probably not going to make a worthwhile return on it. Assets are supposed to make you money, 1941 clearly isn't going to improve your finances is basically what I'm trying to say.

[SignOfZeta]

You f*cked up.

If you have to have a bunch of assclowns on a forum convince you that it was a good idea, you f*cked up.

Thanks for putting it so much more plainly. If you need to be talked into buying something...something's f*cked up.

[MrBroadway]

You f*cked up.

If you have to have a bunch of assclowns on a forum convince you that it was a good idea, you f*cked up.

Thanks for putting it so much more plainly. If you need to be talked into buying something...something's f*cked up.

He already bought it. Any big purchase, good or otherwise, can be accompanied by some doubt. That's pretty normal. In fact, to not have any doubts at all is a sure sign of sunk cost fallacy.

[Arkhan]

It's not always a sure sign of sunk cost fallacy to be confident about a purchase and not have any doubts about said purchase.

Example:

I needed a new bike.  I picked out a blue bike I liked.  I bought said bike.

now I have a bike.  I have no doubts about the purchase of this bike.  It's blue, and has dope ass tires.

It's not like oh, I got this bike.  I thought I needed it.  I hate riding it, but I bought it so I am going to pedal in angst down the street, swearing the entire time because I bought it.

Same goes for a skateboard I just got.    I need skateboard---> Hey look I like that one---> Look, these wheels match, cool. ---> buy it ---> Ride it---> This was a good idea.  Now I have a skateboard.

However, in this case, it's ... probably the sunk cost fallacy.

He's asking for the forum to delude him into thinking it was a good idea.  It probably wasn't.   If it was a good idea, he wouldn't have to ask for help being sure of it.

He'd be like "f*ck yeah, 1941. give it to me.  hnggg".   



Also, some of the times, that sunk cost shit is a crock of shit.   That concert ticket example is the worst example.   "Oh dang its snowing now I can't go see Iron Maiden."

Shut the f*ck up and go see Iron Maiden, pussy.    Leave 3 hours early so you can drive 10mph to get there FFS.

[SignOfZeta]

Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. I bought a hardtop for the Miata two days ago for a grand. I love it. The car looks tight as HELL so I showed people pictures but never did ask them to convince me that that I hadn't made some kind of mistake. I bought the car over seven years ago. This was also a long term plan and it also took a chunk of change out of me when it was a little tight.

The "everyone can have their own opinion unless I don't like it" crowd can't have it both ways. You can't be all "it's his money, he can do what he wants with it" in a thread that is literally called "Convince me I was right to buy 1941". He *clearly* has his own doubts, I'm just reenforcing them.

There's this thing on video game forums where you're supposed to go "look what I bought" and then everyone is allowed to say "good job!" but not much else. "Dude, that was f*cking stupid, take it back." is rarely an exceptable response because these are, basically, "Does this dress make me look fat?" threads and only one response is actually sought.

BTW, Up the Irons.

[MrBroadway]

I needed a new bike.  I picked out a blue bike I liked.  I bought said bike.

A bike, even a new top for a car, is hardly like a couple hundred dollar video game. Apples and oranges. If you just bought your first house, you absolutely should doubt, just to make sure you didn't convince yourself along the way that all those faults aren't really faults. And hey, if there are no faults, then doubting just made you more secure in that purchase.

Re: does that cart make me look fat. I don't really care what expensive game soup buys with his money. It's not like he's throwing down $35k on a sealed Stadium Events. That's stupid. But this is trivial (and probably did not need a thread for assuaging doubts), and though I wouldn't have ever bought it, if someone really wanted a game, sometimes all it takes is a "yeah, it's $200, but so what?" I had a couple doubts when I put down for Rondo, but I absolutely love the game, so no regrets. On the other hand, I could really use that money to go toward X or Y around the house or bills or whatnot.

Rambling aside, it just seems kind of pointless to raise objections about this. There really is only one right answer ("It's your money, do what you want"), but you can follow it up with personal opinions, personal anecdotes, etc. without trying to shut a guy down.

* MrBroadway shrugs
All that, of course, is without even saying that I personally wouldn't buy this, but maybe I would buy something soup wouldn't.

[Black Tiger]

I don't look at game related puchases as an investment. I think of the money as gone once it's spent. If I got something I wanted and enjoy it, that doesn't change whether I paid next to nothing, more than I could afford or whether I or others believe that I got a good deal.

[Arkhan]

A bike, even a new top for a car, is hardly like a couple hundred dollar video game. Apples and oranges. If you just bought your first house, you absolutely should doubt, just to make sure you didn't convince yourself along the way that all those faults aren't really faults. And hey, if there are no faults, then doubting just made you more secure in that purchase.

Well, maybe you shouldn't make generalized "everything without doubt is sunk cost fallacy" statements.

Really, a bike or car part is no different than a video game.

I could have got a cheaper bike.  Zeta could have gotten a cheaper car part. 

Soop could have bought an everdrive to play the same game.


The difference is asking for convincing that it was right to buy a game.

I didn't go riding around going HEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WAS THIS BIKE A GOOD IDEA.

I rode around going f*ck YEAH, BIKE.

That's the difference.

[SignOfZeta]

There really is only one right answer ("It's your money, do what you want"), but you can follow it up with personal opinions, personal anecdotes, etc. without trying to shut a guy down.

Well, for the second part of that, I don't understand how I'm trying to "shut the guy down" any more than you're trying to shut me down. Everyone's allowed their own say unless Mr Broadway feels it's off limits and then it's everyone out of the pool.

As for the first part of that, it there really is only one right answer, then he started a very egotistical and weak thread and f*ck him for doing so. I'd prefer to think he gave us the option of replying with an actual reply instead of just a form letter he wrote himself and in fact you're the one who's offended by organic conversation. Soop himself hasn't said anything like this, you're being offended for someone else and I'm not sure they even give a shit.

[blueraven]

Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about. I bought a hardtop for the Miata two days ago for a grand. I love it. The car looks tight as HELL so I showed people pictures but never did ask them to convince me that that I hadn't made some kind of mistake. I bought the car over seven years ago. This was also a long term plan and it also took a chunk of change out of me when it was a little tight.

The "everyone can have their own opinion unless I don't like it" crowd can't have it both ways. You can't be all "it's his money, he can do what he wants with it" in a thread that is literally called "Convince me I was right to buy 1941". He *clearly* has his own doubts, I'm just reenforcing them.

There's this thing on video game forums where you're supposed to go "look what I bought" and then everyone is allowed to say "good job!" but not much else. "Dude, that was f*cking stupid, take it back." is rarely an exceptable response because these are, basically, "Does this dress make me look fat?" threads and only one response is actually sought.

BTW, Up the Irons.

Ohh thats right you drive a Miata. So does 780racer. I think.. he races it.. in the 780?

I heard you can put a stage 4 turbo on that bitch and destroy almost everything on the road.

[Arkhan]

Miatas are for pussies.

DRIVIN ME AN 88 CAMRY WAGON LIKE A REAL BIG DICK MOTHER f*ckER