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esteban

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2017, 11:14:19 PM »
Wait... I thought I commented on this already?

Needless to say:

Smeared Graffiti rocks the PCE.
And PCE rocks Smeared Graffiti. 

PUT YOUR HEADPHONES ON. NOW.
LISTEN. NOW.
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Michirin9801

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2017, 03:52:54 PM »
LOVE IT!  :clap: :clap: :clap:  I always thought the PCE and SNES sounds were quite comparable.  I feel like the SNES sounds don't always get enough credit. FF3 is clearly one of the more engaging soundtracks to me from the time. 



Side Notes:

Speaking of the SNES I always enjoyed the top gear soundtrack on the SNES as well as its predecessors the  Lotus series on the Amiga. 

for those that wish to hear:

SNES
https://youtu.be/LhZHntVt6cI?list=PLkog_NvP2P1IMT2h6i_pTZFv-JW1dkqwd

Amiga


Glad you do ^^
You know, "SNES sounds don't get enough credit" is a phrase that I don't see often, but I think I have to agree...
I'm one of those people who thinks that the SNES has the best sound out of any game system (the PCE is my close 2nd favourite, perhaps tied with the Game Boy Advance?) so calling it anything short of "Amazing" is too little credit to me, but hey, it's all a matter of taste right?

I bloody LOVE Final Fight 3's soundtrack, it's so layered! There's like, at least 3 different melodies playing at the same time through most of the soundtrack, and they all somehow stay harmonised and catchy as heck throughout! The composers for that game were geniuses!

And I too love Top Gear's soundtrack ^^
Haven't played much of Lotus Turbo Challenge, other than the Mega Drive port, which IIRC didn't have music during gameplay, but if or when I get into Amiga emulation it will be one of the first games I'll try!
I've tried covering the faster version of Burn Rubber from Top Gear 2 on the PC engine before, but I haven't finished it, and if I were to finish it I'd most likely re-do it from scratch because it's been so long ago and I could do it so much better now... Btw, Top Gear 2 is my favourite racing game!

Wait... I thought I commented on this already?

Needless to say:

Smeared Graffiti rocks the PCE.
And PCE rocks Smeared Graffiti. 

PUT YOUR HEADPHONES ON. NOW.
LISTEN. NOW.
Thanks mate ^^

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2017, 01:42:08 PM »
2 is REALLY good but I love top gear 1 a little more although I think 2 is probably a little better.  it was one of the few games I had growing up and I played it way more than anyone should have.  I have never played the Amiga version, but when I found out most of Top gear was remastered lotus challenge tunes I had to go back and listen to all the soundtracks.

I also must say that overall the SNES and PC Engine are tied as far as sounds go for me. Also, i think the fact that the top gear sound tracks don't get credit as some of the best is also a little bit unfair.  yeah, the RPG's and platformers may have some really great soundtracks but for a racing game top gear, 1 and 2 are among some of the best IMO. 
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Michirin9801

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #18 on: August 24, 2017, 02:27:29 PM »
2 is REALLY good but I love top gear 1 a little more although I think 2 is probably a little better.  it was one of the few games I had growing up and I played it way more than anyone should have.  I have never played the Amiga version, but when I found out most of Top gear was remastered lotus challenge tunes I had to go back and listen to all the soundtracks.

I also must say that overall the SNES and PC Engine are tied as far as sounds go for me. Also, i think the fact that the top gear sound tracks don't get credit as some of the best is also a little bit unfair.  yeah, the RPG's and platformers may have some really great soundtracks but for a racing game top gear, 1 and 2 are among some of the best IMO.

Oh I get that, I love Top Gear 1 almost as much as the 2nd game, I might have even played it more, it's simpler and more approachable than Top Gear 2, and it's better for shorter play-sessions, but the 2nd game is for when you wanna get serious about it you know what I mean? In the 2nd game there's a career mode where you can earn cash to tune up your car and make it better as the races go so that you can keep up with your opponents who are also getting their cars better and better...

To put it simply, the 2nd game is deeper, it also has the advantage of taking up the entire screen in single player mode as opposed to having the screen split at all times, but the first game also has its own advantages, like having one more song to play throughout the races so there's less repetition (not like you'd get bored of listening to either of those amazing soundtracks) and having cars which look different from one-another whereas in the 2nd game every car model is the same, the only changes are in colour...

To be fair though, having only one car model has made them able to use the memory they had to make more sprites of that one model as opposed to less sprites of multiple models, and because of that the animations are better in the 2nd game, also the "Draw Distance" of the 2nd game is also way better, the Pseudo-3D road goes really far into the screen and you can see the curves approaching from way in the distance and it looks great!

As for the soundchips, other than my own nostalgia towards the SNES, what really settles it as my favourite is the fact that it's the perfect middle-ground in between chiptunes and 'real' music, the SPC700 is an 8 channel sampler, it's got enough channels to be able to make a full-bodied song and still have one or more channels left to play sound effects without clipping-off parts of the music, and because it's a sampler it means that it can play literally anything you can cram within 64KB! (Including instruments synthesised on the PCE or MD, which means you could potentially re-create any PCE/MD soundtrack on the SNES with little-to-no noticeable loss in detail or quality, but not many people did that because they could sample 'real' instruments instead, or instruments from a more sophisticate synthesiser)

The PCE is great too, it's my 2nd favourite for a very good reason, yeah it's got less channels, but the channels it does have are already enough to make a soundtrack just as full-bodied as any SNES soundtrack (as proven by me and by plenty of PCE composers from back in the day) it can play samples as well (albeit in a much more limited fashion than you can do on the SNES) and it's VERY easy to make awesome music for it! Although that's more thanks to Deflemask than anything, the SNES doesn't have a dedicated tracker, although I can make music for the SNES which will run in real hardware using OpenMPT, I've already stated time and time again how OpenMPT isn't great, and that Deflemask is SO much better in pretty much every way... But it's not just that, 5 bit wavetables are an extremely easy-to-understand-and-use method of sound synthesis, it's as simple as drawing whatever waveform you want and playing it on whatever note you want! The lower bit-depth makes it even easier to work with (albeit more limiting) because there's much less room for error when you only have a 32 x 32 grid to work with, but even with such limited synth they've managed to compose absolute masterpieces such as the Soldier Blade, Magical Chase and Xanadu 2 soundtracks~ (2 of which don't even use samples, they're all PCE synth)

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #19 on: August 30, 2017, 07:47:18 PM »

Happy Birthday Miku-Chan~♥

August 31st 2017 marks the 10th anniversary of the release of the Vocaloid Hatsune Miku! (Yeah, it's really been that long)
Some of you are probably already familiar with this cover as I've posted it here in this forum first, I took a pretty long time to post it to YouTube because I had other plans for it, I was gonna make an animation featuring a certain idol character who is relevant to the PC engine dancing to this tune with some of her many many friends...
I didn't get very far in it because real life happens, and Miku's 10th anniversary was fast approaching and I felt that I needed to do something to commemorate it!
(I still haven't forgiven myself about not having commemorated Suzumiya Haruhi's 10 years, I just couldn't let it happen again to something that's this important to me)

So I've decided to post the song to YouTube with footage of the original dance recorded from the 2nd PSP game in order to commemorate the occasion, as well as make some art of Miku having her birthday cake~
(You can see it here in its full glory if you're interested: http://fav.me/dbliypg)

I realise that most of you probably don't care much for this girly weeb s***, but this is the thread where I post my music covers, and I'm posting a cover right now...

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 03:17:05 AM »
Anyone that doesn't smile at a cute girl dancing to sweet Turbob chip tunes can kiss my ass.
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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 05:53:44 AM »
I'm glad you posted it, there is plenty of Miku activity going on right now from other folks I know.

Happy Mikuversary!
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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #22 on: September 01, 2017, 04:27:48 AM »
I had no idea about what the f*ck a "vocaloid" was until my daughter explained it to me in the not-too-distant past.

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However, since this is PCE-related, I am interested in it.

Because PCE.
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Michirin9801

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2017, 04:56:04 PM »
I had no idea about what the f*ck a "vocaloid" was until my daughter explained it to me in the not-too-distant past.

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However, since this is PCE-related, I am interested in it.

Because PCE.
Weirdly enough, this cover of a 2008 Electronic J-Pop song has already garnered more attention than the Final Fight 3 cover I did, and much faster to boot, in a retro-gaming forum...
Now that's something I didn't expect...

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2017, 07:08:32 PM »
I had no idea about what the f*ck a "vocaloid" was until my daughter explained it to me in the not-too-distant past.

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However, since this is PCE-related, I am interested in it.

Because PCE.
Weirdly enough, this cover of a 2008 Electronic J-Pop song has already garnered more attention than the Final Fight 3 cover I did, and much faster to boot, in a retro-gaming forum...
Now that's something I didn't expect...

Exactly: it's surprising what gains "traction" or is  "popular" and finds an audience quickly.

I guess there aren't enough Final Fight fans to compete with The Vocaloids...which makes sense, I guess?

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2017, 03:31:30 PM »


Another cover from Super Adventure Island II, I think this is one of the more famous songs from the game, and rightfully so because it's AMAZING! Unfortunately the SNES-to-PCE conversion wasn't as smooth this time around because this song uses ALL 8 CHANNELS on the SNES! That certainly doesn't help... I've tried my best to preserve as much of the original's integrity with this cover, but you tell me whether or not I did a good job...

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2017, 05:00:37 PM »
I'm not familiar with the original version, as I'm not a fan of the SAI games, but you did a hell of a job with the sound and without checking the SNES version, the composition/performance sounds great.
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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2017, 10:34:29 PM »
Excellent song choice!

PCE is not insulting the greatness of this song, but building on its legacy.

SAI PCE II
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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2017, 06:17:29 AM »
I'm not familiar with the original version, as I'm not a fan of the SAI games, but you did a hell of a job with the sound and without checking the SNES version, the composition/performance sounds great.

Excellent song choice!

PCE is not insulting the greatness of this song, but building on its legacy.

SAI PCE II


Glad you like it ^^

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Re: Michirin's PCE Music Thread
« Reply #29 on: September 05, 2017, 04:58:30 AM »
Yeah I agree, this is a great track.  Keep up the good work!
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