Author Topic: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"  (Read 1142 times)

xelement5x

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 07:08:26 AM »
Yeah, the supercap is also a much better solution to me than the rechargeable coin cell that they use in the SegaCD.  I have been updating mine to use the supercap instead and it works great. 

Interesting... how often do you think it needs to be "recharged" for maintenance?
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The one I put in a PAC recently lasted at least 6 months without getting juice.  But the draw between the SegaCD and the Duo for the save RAM could be different.  Technically if you just got a bigger one you would have more time, assuming it got charged up. 

According to console5:
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These .22F caps have quadruple the capacity of original NEC .047F parts.  They can replace the square-shaped Supercaps in Duo hardware as well. 

By capacity I believe he means the micro-Farad capacity, and hence how long it'll last before being totally drained.
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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2017, 09:21:52 AM »
My Turbo CD has gone for months unplugged without losing saves. In fact I don't recall it ever losing saves due to non-use. That supercapacitor is the shit. I don't know if you only need to plug it in or actually turn the system on, but if it's the latter you only need to turn it on for less than a second and the supercapacitor's topped off again. Love it!

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #17 on: August 09, 2017, 09:40:03 AM »
I'm pretty sure you have to turn it on, and yeah, a full second will be more than enough.

I've lost my saves lots of times but it takes like a year or at least three or four months and by that time I'm obviously not going to remember WTF I was doing in the game anyway. I'm obviously balls-deep playing other PCE games on another PCE system.

While some people complain (almost always noobs) over time I've learned to appreciate the PCE save system more than any other. Batteries last longer but they also leak shit when they die. Flash is f*cking crap, at least on old stuff. Passwords are maybe a close second since they are so easily backed up and transferred.

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #18 on: August 09, 2017, 10:03:37 AM »
I went over a year and still had saves once.  I swear I can't turn my saturn on without the battery having died since the last time I played.  Stupid 30 minute lifespan saturn batteries.
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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #19 on: August 09, 2017, 10:16:34 AM »
A Duracell will go a couple of years in a Saturn from my experience. Those brand-free ones from eBay that come in 1000 count blister rolls...amazingly they don't last as long.

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2017, 02:45:13 PM »
Just solder in a 500 farad ultracap and you're good to go.

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #21 on: August 09, 2017, 07:18:10 PM »
Just solder in a 500 farad ultracap and you're good to go.

I don't think one would fit in the machine.

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #22 on: August 09, 2017, 07:59:36 PM »
Would a precharged JO crystal fit in place of the original cap?




I think my Dup held its saves for a few weeks, however, some of the more important ones (e.g. Ys I&II) are backed up on a Tennokoe bank card.

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2017, 08:49:16 AM »
Just solder in a 500 farad ultracap and you're good to go.

I don't think one would fit in the machine.

Just put a hole in the PCE CD/DUO shell, people drill holes on them for all kinds of mods :P

I can think of very few games that would benefit from having a 1 month + untouched save except for highscore storage or super special post game unlocks (any game like that on the PC Engine?)... If you really need to keep the saves intact forever there's a simple solution: PLAY YOUR PCE

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2017, 08:58:58 AM »
... super special post game unlocks (any game like that on the PC Engine?)...

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory &quot;Recharge&quot;
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2017, 04:34:25 AM »
My Duo-R lost all the saves recently. I had not played it for a few months. The last time I did play Ys III, it was glitching when I would try to save. Hopefully I can recharge it.

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Re: TG16 CD unit memory "Recharge"
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2017, 05:02:52 AM »
As stated, it recharges in less than a second every time you turn it on.

If you are seeing problems *while* saving you have some kind of issue. I'm pretty sure you could literally remove the supercap and the system would still seem to save normally until you powered off the system.