Do you play your games? Are you afraid of insertion marks?

[Lost Monkey]

...Artwork printed on plastic on Hucards is shiny and colorful. It is the highest quality artwork on a video game cart and better than all retro console game carts....

I never really thought about this, but it is definitely true and a huge part of what makes HuCards attractive. The artwork printed right on the card is unique to PCE/TG16 AFAIK...

[Green Beret]

...Artwork printed on plastic on Hucards is shiny and colorful. It is the highest quality artwork on a video game cart and better than all retro console game carts....

I never really thought about this, but it is definitely true and a huge part of what makes HuCards attractive. The artwork printed right on the card is unique to PCE/TG16 AFAIK...

Yes it is unique in my knowledge. Those cards look awesome. It would be interesting if somebody has info how much costed to Nec to do this! I mean if it actually costed more than the stickers of the combetition.

I think second higher quality after PCE/TG16 was the stickers of the first Game Boy

[GoldenWheels]

Think about the poor huey slot after all this repeated insertion. What man would want her now?

[nopepper]

Although insertion marks are silly, I do think a couple of good points were made by the OP.

1- HuCard artwork is badass, even more so when they are inserted in their respective PC Engine or Coregrafx slots (instead of covered by Duo doors).
2- The PC Engine, CD Rom, Duo family is really the best platform for "retro" games in real "retro" hardware. Not saying that it has the best games among NES, SNES or MD/Genesis, but the hardware itself is the best suited for what I envision "retro" games to look and play, as it has all the right qualities in terms of speed/response, chunky pixel graphics, color and sound capabilities (either chip or redbook). Not to mention that regardless of media used (hucard or CD), you can distribute your game using the ubiquitous jewel case.

If I was a game developer thinking of writing new games for old hardware, this is the system I would choose. For example, I think something like Shovel Knight would work best as a PCE Super CD.

[Green Beret]

 

Although insertion marks are silly, I do think a couple of good points were made by the OP.

1- HuCard artwork is badass, even more so when they are inserted in their respective PC Engine or Coregrafx slots (instead of covered by Duo doors).
2- The PC Engine, CD Rom, Duo family is really the best platform for "retro" games in real "retro" hardware. Not saying that it has the best games among NES, SNES or MD/Genesis, but the hardware itself is the best suited for what I envision "retro" games to look and play, as it has all the right qualities in terms of speed/response, chunky pixel graphics, color and sound capabilities (either chip or redbook). Not to mention that regardless of media used (hucard or CD), you can distribute your game using the ubiquitous jewel case.

If I was a game developer thinking of writing new games for old hardware, this is the system I would choose. For example, I think something like Shovel Knight would work best as a PCE Super CD.

[SignOfZeta]

"Retro"

[turboswimbz]

"Retro"

ROLF

""retro""

[SignOfZeta]

I think of all Retro systems out there, the PCE is the Retro-ist. Everyone else f*cked up and didn't realize that they needed to use more Retro in the machine to make it as thoroughly Retro as it could be.

Can you imagine what it would be like to work at a Retro game company?

"Hi, Bob! Welcome to NEC!"
"Hi Jim! I'm glad to be at NEC making this Retro game system with everyone else. I really hope we can get it as Retro as possible before the 1987 release date."
"Don't worry, Bob! This shit'll be maximum Retro. We're filling it to the rafters with Retro touches and Retro capability."
"Retro!"
"Retro!"

[seieienbu]

I was playing R Type a while ago, and when I took it out I saw a bunch of faint scratches on the back of the game.  I've had it since it was new; it was the first game I bought after getting the console.  It took me 20 years and a lot of effort to finally beat the game. 

My point?  When I saw the scratches I was actually kind of happy.  That was a game that I'd put to the test, enjoyed (and hated) repeatedly, and had used it so much that I'd actually given visible wear in the hucard.  I never saw the game as an investment hoping for returns.  I've never bothered thinking about how much I'd like to keep the game as pristine as possible for an eventual resell.  If someone is worried about insertion marks in on video games then he's clearly playing your games differently from how I played mine.

[nopepper]

I think of all Retro systems out there, the PCE is the Retro-ist. Everyone else f*cked up and didn't realize that they needed to use more Retro in the machine to make it as thoroughly Retro as it could be.

Can you imagine what it would be like to work at a Retro game company?

"Hi, Bob! Welcome to NEC!"
"Hi Jim! I'm glad to be at NEC making this Retro game system with everyone else. I really hope we can get it as Retro as possible before the 1987 release date."
"Don't worry, Bob! This shit'll be maximum Retro. We're filling it to the rafters with Retro touches and Retro capability."
"Retro!"
"Retro!"

It is the "Retro-ist" for sure, you bitter man.

[Gypsy]

ret·ro1
ˈretrō/
adjective
adjective: retro

    1.
    imitative of a style, fashion, or design from the recent past.

PCE is vintage, not retro.

I think of all Retro systems out there, the PCE is the Retro-ist. Everyone else f*cked up and didn't realize that they needed to use more Retro in the machine to make it as thoroughly Retro as it could be.

Can you imagine what it would be like to work at a Retro game company?

"Hi, Bob! Welcome to NEC!"
"Hi Jim! I'm glad to be at NEC making this Retro game system with everyone else. I really hope we can get it as Retro as possible before the 1987 release date."
"Don't worry, Bob! This shit'll be maximum Retro. We're filling it to the rafters with Retro touches and Retro capability."
"Retro!"
"Retro!"

Amazing. Laughed many times.

[Punch]

Language change is variation over time in a language's phonological, morphological, semantic, syntactic, and other features. It is studied by historical linguistics and evolutionary linguistics. Some commentators use the label corruption to suggest that language change constitutes a degradation in the quality of a language, especially when the change originates from human error or prescriptively discouraged usage.[1] Descriptive linguistics typically does not support this concept, since from a scientific point of view such changes are neither good nor bad.

[Gypsy]

Language change is variation over time in a language's phonological, morphological, semantic, syntactic, and other features. It is studied by historical linguistics and evolutionary linguistics. Some commentators use the label corruption to suggest that language change constitutes a degradation in the quality of a language, especially when the change originates from human error or prescriptively discouraged usage.[1] Descriptive linguistics typically does not support this concept, since from a scientific point of view such changes are neither good nor bad.

So, if enough people shriek retro the definition changes? While true, meh.

[nopepper]

Bottom line, and in my opinion, among its contemporaries, the PCE provides the right canvas to accomplish the goals associated with creating a modern game with "vintage hardware" constraints in mind. These new games, in a lot of cases, surpass the hardware that inspired their design, such as Shovel Knight being inspired by a lot of NES classics, but being (probably) technically impossible to be accurately represented in that hardware. However, that game would fit really well as a Super CDROM. Same with Axiom Verge, Cave Story, etc.

In other words, modern game designers, who have the benefit of hindsight to create games that are inspired and in some cases, made to be artificially constrained, by the designs of old hardware, are creating games that seem to fit best with the technical capabilities of NEC's console, if they ever choose to do so. This seems to validate the design decisions their engineers made when putting it together as the "retro-ist" console.

People take stupid shit, such as video games, too seriously.

[Arkhan]

retro is just a stupid gaming buzzword perpetuated by a bunch of people who thought it sounded cooler than vintage because vintage implied corduroys, black and white TVs, and couches that are really itchy.

and now everyone slaps retro in front of any gaming thing ever.

RETROVISION RETROHURPITTYYYRETROGAMEGOODNESSOMGRETROLOLNEWHARDWAREBOXRETROBRITELOLOL

its not really correct when used ON old machines.     Its only correct if its "new thing trying to be old thing"

like all the games on steam.