Author Topic: Scans of unreleased games (Read 1705 times)

FM-77 · « **Reply #30 on:** October 21, 2006, 12:44:00 PM »

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Quote from: "Seldane"
I can't get enough of generic, mediocre, ugly RPGs..

Buy a SNES.

Why get a SNES when I have a PC Engine and a Mega Drive? Plenty of bad RPGs on those systems.

Keranu · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2006, 12:48:10 PM »

Yeah I agree; Tengai Makyou, Cosmic Fantasy 2, and Dragon Slayer are just awful games.

Black Tiger · « **Reply #32 on:** October 21, 2006, 01:23:42 PM »

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Yeah I agree; Tengai Makyou, Cosmic Fantasy 2, and Dragon Slayer are just awful games.

You can't be so unspecific and let one game drag down an entire series Keranu. We all know you're talking about Kabuki Den.

Keranu · « **Reply #33 on:** October 21, 2006, 03:31:03 PM »

Oh god, Kabuki Den is the worst. I guess Red/Hudson Soft figured they had a crappy series going already and decided to just make Kabuki Den a complete failure. There is totally nothing original in that game and it has the dullest ending of all time.

herr-g · « **Reply #34 on:** October 22, 2006, 08:17:17 AM »

I just love Dragon Slayer. The only annoying thing were the frequent random monster attacks later in that game. The simple storyline mixed with the amazing soundtracks make it one of my favorite PCE RPGs.
From the technical side my favorite is Seiya Monogatari.

Black Tiger · « **Reply #35 on:** October 22, 2006, 09:05:40 AM »

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I just love Dragon Slayer. The only annoying thing were the frequent random monster attacks later in that game.

Don't forget the english dub in the Turbo version!

sunteam_paul · « **Reply #36 on:** October 22, 2006, 10:51:06 AM »

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I just love Dragon Slayer. The only annoying thing were the frequent random monster attacks later in that game. The simple storyline mixed with the amazing soundtracks make it one of my favorite PCE RPGs.
From the technical side my favorite is Seiya Monogatari.

Part way through Dragon Slayer you get an item which allows you to see the monsters wandering around, so random attacks don't happen.

Black Tiger · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2006, 11:04:39 AM »

Quote from: "sunteam_paul"

Quote from: "herr-g"
I just love Dragon Slayer. The only annoying thing were the frequent random monster attacks later in that game. The simple storyline mixed with the amazing soundtracks make it one of my favorite PCE RPGs.
From the technical side my favorite is Seiya Monogatari.

Part way through Dragon Slayer you get an item which allows you to see the monsters wandering around, so random attacks don't happen.

I believe that its called the 'Whistle' or 'Flute' or something.

Just keep using that thing and everything will be fine.

SignOfZeta · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2006, 12:31:50 PM »

Quote from: "Keranu"

Yeah I agree; Tengai Makyou, Cosmic Fantasy 2, and Dragon Slayer are just awful games.

No, seriously, CF2 sucks.

Keranu · « **Reply #39 on:** October 22, 2006, 01:22:38 PM »

Quote from: "herr-g"

I just love Dragon Slayer. The only annoying thing were the frequent random monster attacks later in that game. The simple storyline mixed with the amazing soundtracks make it one of my favorite PCE RPGs.
From the technical side my favorite is Seiya Monogatari.

I love Dragon Slayer to death, it had such great atmosphere for me. However I never found random battles a problem at all in the game, infact I think Dragon Slayer has the coolest random battle system. Whenever you run away from an enemy, their sprite will actually appear on the overhead scene with you so you can easily run away from them. In dungeons they don't even randomly appear but are visible everywhere, it's great

. But yeah as other people mentioned, you can use an item on the world map that makes all the enemies visible. Truly genius battle idea, in my opinion.

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No, seriously, CF2 sucks.

Well kind sir, have you beat it

? CF2 can be a little boring in the beginning after the first few cinemas, but a little later in the game it REALLY kicks up and the end of the game is absolutely stunning. I can say that there is no other game from back in CF2's time that had an ending that could quite match up with it. It was really impressive.

SignOfZeta · « **Reply #40 on:** October 22, 2006, 02:13:02 PM »

Quote from: "Keranu"

Quote from: "SignOfZeta"
No, seriously, CF2 sucks.

Well kind sir, have you beat it ? CF2 can be a little boring in the beginning after the first few cinemas, but a little later in the game it REALLY kicks up and the end of the game is absolutely stunning. I can say that there is no other game from back in CF2's time that had an ending that could quite match up with it. It was really impressive.

Oh yes, I beat it for sure. I bought it back when it was still in stores. It was a prime reason for me getting a Duo. The ending is nice, as you say, and its easy to like the characters and story but...its a sucky RPG. It just sucks. The graphics (outside of the cinemas), suck, the battle system is...horrible. Dragon Warrior 1's was better. Shit, Quest 64's was better. Its a horrible battle system. Its a horrible game period. If it was a HuCard with no animation/CD sound no one would even think twice about it. CF4 on the other hand (either one) is quite nice, even if I did get hopelessly stuck in Part 2.

I've played quite a few PCE RPGs over the years, and CF2 is one of the worst. I'm not sure what constitutes "CF2's time", but I'd say Startling Odyssey 2's ending was just as fantastic.

GUTS · « **Reply #41 on:** October 22, 2006, 03:36:33 PM »

Cosmic Fantasy 2 is a little primitive, but comparing it to Dragon Warrior is as ridiculous as seldane comparing Xanadu to a nes game.

SignOfZeta · « **Reply #42 on:** October 22, 2006, 05:15:16 PM »

Quote from: "GUTS"

Cosmic Fantasy 2 is a little primitive, but comparing it to Dragon Warrior is as ridiculous as seldane comparing Xanadu to a nes game.

In DQ the enemies can actually use spells on you, poison, etc. In CF2 (the US version anway) they can't. Enemies only "attack", and that's it. Aside from having multiple party members, I think DQ has a deeper combat system.

Also, I thought Xanadu was a NES game...I must be thinking of something else.

esteban · « **Reply #43 on:** October 22, 2006, 05:57:09 PM »

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Also, I thought Xanadu was a NES game...I must be thinking of something else.

Faxanadu was for the NES! I love that game

. Seldane, though, isn't a fan of it, I believe, because it was a Hudson spin-off (like Ys IV Dawn of Ys) and not part of Falcom's official canon.

That said, Faxanadu was lots of fun.

Bonknuts · « **Reply #44 on:** October 22, 2006, 07:13:51 PM »

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because it was a Hudson spin-off (like Ys IV Dawn of Ys) and not part of Falcom's official canon.

But it's strange that Falcom would include video from the PCE CD version of Ys IV in the JDK music video for the PC release of Ys VI and not clips from the SFC version. Maybe Falcom liked the PCE version over the SFC version or had more of hand in it than what was lead to believe. If I remember right, Falcom did not program for consoles - computers only (MSX,PC-89/98, etc) and had other 3rd party do those translations/versions. Oh well