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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2017, 02:09:14 PM »
Gotta go with the Galaga 88, but they did plenty of good quality Hucards. And from the collecting point of view I love how uniform the spines look.

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #16 on: October 17, 2017, 06:06:41 AM »
Ordyne, Splatterhouse and Galaga 88 for me.   A 4th would probably be Genpei Toumaden.

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2017, 06:20:51 AM »
I was thinking about choosing Yokai too since it was this game that sold me on getting the pc engine.  I love the graphics and audio of this game and it's so weird.  My only problem today is that I always have to disconnect any multi player adapter before playing and this also involves the wireless receiver as it stops the game from booting up.

it's real weird! It feels like there are tons of possibilities in terms of what you can do, even though it's not true - the feeling is there! that's weird about the multiplayer adapter thing! I wonder why that would be...

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2017, 06:16:33 AM »
Well, there do at least seem to be some strong trends. Galaga and Splatterhouse are definitely out in the lead.
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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2017, 07:29:13 AM »
I didn't vote because I haven't played a lot of these games.

Galaga is a surprise, though. Not that it's a bad game, but it's just outdated. Do you guys who like this game think it's good for a Namco game or that it's a top shooter on the system?
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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2017, 08:56:45 AM »
I didn't vote because I haven't played a lot of these games.

Galaga is a surprise, though. Not that it's a bad game, but it's just outdated. Do you guys who like this game think it's good for a Namco game or that it's a top shooter on the system?

Galaga 88 isn't a port, it's an upgraded sequel with lots of new enemy types, branching levels, scrolling areas, and even boss fights. Yet, it is still just as accessible, if not more so, than the original. It's not a gimmicky piece of garbage like Gaplus.

It's quite a challenge to get all 4 route endings, and then attempting Hard Mode. The triple ship is also a massive gamechanger.

Well up there with the best of them.

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2017, 08:59:21 AM »
I'm also surprised by galaga. It feels pretty dated to me even in its 88 version.

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2017, 10:32:59 AM »
I didn't vote because I haven't played a lot of these games.

Galaga is a surprise, though. Not that it's a bad game, but it's just outdated. Do you guys who like this game think it's good for a Namco game or that it's a top shooter on the system?

Dated can only be a compliment with the way gaming was headed. :)

But it's seriously one of the better games of all time and solid port of a great expanded update.

I don't think Namcot did a good job on the technical side with most of their PCE games. Galaga '88/90 is timeless though.
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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2017, 10:51:26 AM »
Seeing everyone agreeing with Galaga 90 being a great Namco game feels good.

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2017, 11:58:19 AM »
I honestly think Galga is one of the better shooters/game on the system.

Yeah, it's a dated arcade port, but that's what makes it charming. (can't you make this argument about half the library anyway?)  It's simple, fun, challenging but not frustrating and different from most if not all the other games on the system. What more could you want?
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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2017, 03:43:45 PM »
Galaga 88 isn't a port, it's an upgraded sequel with lots of new enemy types, branching levels, scrolling areas, and even boss fights. Yet, it is still just as accessible, if not more so, than the original. It's not a gimmicky piece of garbage like Gaplus.

It's quite a challenge to get all 4 route endings, and then attempting Hard Mode. The triple ship is also a massive gamechanger.

Well up there with the best of them.
Damn, I gotta give that game another shot!
I've always dismissed it because it looked rather unimpressive and didn't have music at first...
I think being unable to move my ship vertically also turned me off of it a little more...

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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2017, 08:09:29 PM »
Never owned any Namco game so I cannot state any favourite ones.

I think one problem is that Namco only produced games for the system in its early years and they just withdrew before even developing CD games. Early games (not just Namco ones) on the system were understandably primitive and couldn't use the system to its better potential. Namco's games were usually arcade ports that at first glimpse looked close enough to the arcade originals, but when examined in detail suffered from a lot of sacrifices in nearly every department. That early Hucards were usually small sized didn't help (It was advertised that games could go up to 4 or 8 Mbit right from the beginning, but the truth was early titles couldn't even exceed 2Mbit, which was one reason why R-Type was released in two parts, and this was at a time that even Famicom and SMS titles started to get bigger). They're still good games in their own rights, just not up to the standard of the originals that they're going to emulate.

One example was Dragon Spirit. It looked good and sounded good though a number of stuff were cut, such as the opening cutscene and stages. (I still find this a good conversion, though many people disagree.) The Famicom version looked like a pile of ... er... things but included a lot of original features and cutscenes (even extra ones) to make it enjoyable. This somehow made the PCE version looked barebones in comparison.

Another example was Youkai Douchuuki. The PCE version looked decent, but still, was a scaled down conversion. The Famicom version, however, was greatly expanded even compared to the Arcade version and it looked and sounded great considering the system's limitation.

I think in many cases the developers could try harder, as there were many missed opportunities.
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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2017, 07:43:17 AM »
I don't think Namcot did a good job on the technical side with most of their PCE games. Galaga '88/90 is timeless though.

Do you think they did a good job technically with Dragon Spirit's and Splatterhouse soundtracks?

I find those 2 to be some of the best chip music in the PCE.


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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2017, 07:49:34 AM »
I didn't vote because I haven't played a lot of these games.

Galaga is a surprise, though. Not that it's a bad game, but it's just outdated. Do you guys who like this game think it's good for a Namco game or that it's a top shooter on the system?

The original Galaga will never be outdated in my eyes, and Galaga 88/90 is just an expansion of that same formula.

With that said, I feel the original Galaga is the better game, as it's more straightforward, which seems to work better with this type of game.

I understand feeling this way about stuff like Space Invaders, but Galaga, come on! You must be a millenial, post generation X'er, right?


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Re: Favorite Namco PCE game?
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2017, 07:55:24 AM »
Damn, I gotta give that game another shot!
I've always dismissed it because it looked rather unimpressive and didn't have music at first...
I think being unable to move my ship vertically also turned me off of it a little more...

Are you turned off by Mega Man's inability to duck or shoot up? If not, then you should be able to appreciate the constraints the developers imposed (even if by forced design) upon you as the player, for the sake of challenge and level design.

The original Galaga is a masterpiece of design. Galaga 88/90 is great as well.