PC Engine exclusives

[Black Tiger]

If all that matters is basic story, plot or characters, then most Mario games only count as the same.

[shubibiman]

@Black Tiger :

Tengai Makyou Ziria => Later released on the Xbox 360
Tengai Makyou II Manjimaru => Later released on the Gamecube and the DS
XZR II/Exile WP
Startling Odyssey => I'm not sure which episode but one of the two (maybe both) Startling Odyssey games was also released on the PS1.
Startling Odyssey II
Gulliver Boy => also released on the Sega Saturn (exact same version)
Last Armageddon => also released on the Famicom
Dungeon Explorer => also released on the SFC under a different title and later released on the NDS.

Some titles are computer ports but as has being stated, we're only talking about console exclusives.

[Black Tiger]

@Black Tiger :

Tengai Makyou Ziria => Later released on the Xbox 360
Tengai Makyou II Manjimaru => Later released on the Gamecube and the DS
XZR II/Exile WP
Startling Odyssey => I'm not sure which episode but one of the two (maybe both) Startling Odyssey games was also released on the PS1.
Startling Odyssey II
Gulliver Boy => also released on the Sega Saturn (exact same version)
Last Armageddon => also released on the Famicom
Dungeon Explorer => also released on the SFC under a different title and later released on the NDS.

Some titles are computer ports but as has being stated, we're only talking about console exclusives.

OP set the rules about ports to future hardware not counting.

Ziria 360 is not even close to the same game.

I thought that the Famicom LA game was different, but have only tried it out through emulation.

Dungeon Explorer isn't on SFC, but I excluded DEII because of Crysyal Beans.

[ParanoiaDragon]

The DS & PSP Dungeon Explorers are comletely new games, they're not rehashes of the first Dungeon Explorer, but rather, are Diablo clones.

[Black Tiger]

Sega-CD Dungeon Explorer is also unique.

[reliq]

There are hundreds, many of which are lame as hell. I suggest you collect via some other high concept.

Why would I buy something that is not the original release?
The original is always superior no matter what
I already stated that PC ports and arcade ones dont count nor games that were ported to a newer console
Bonk adventure is okay, maybe I should have added that games that were ported to older consoles is okay

[Arkhan]

The original is always superior no matter what

Shadow of the Beast on PCE plays better than the Amiga one.

aw yiss

[exodus]

The original is always superior no matter what

as someone who makes games for a living, I can assure you this is not true

[crazydean]

The original is always superior no matter what
I already stated that PC ports and arcade ones dont count

I'm confused by this reasoning. So the original is always best unless it's on superior equipment?

[reliq]

The original is always superior no matter what
I already stated that PC ports and arcade ones dont count

I'm confused by this reasoning. So the original is always best unless it's on superior equipment?

Yes, superior equipment doesn't mean it will play better

[exodus]

Yes, superior equipment doesn't mean it will play better

many ports and subsequent releases include significant patches and fixes, especially in the earlier days. soukyuugurentai for the saturn - the original has some bugs that are fixed by the saturn collection edition, which also adds english support. is the original better?

The xbox port of Silent Hill 2 adds significant content, which was backported to PS2 in a greatest hits edition. Is the original superior?

Virtua Fighter 4 released on PS4, but a greatest hits version, Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, includes game balancing, loads of features, and a 10th anniversary edition of Virtua Fighter. Is the original better?

Speaking of Virtua Fighter, the original Saturn port was so poorly put together, so maligned by fans, that Sega put out Virtua Fighter Remix, with better textures, a faster framerate, and all around better handling. Is the original Virtua Fighter the better game?

But though you didn't say it explicitly, I guess you probably mean a game on its original console is always better than a port to a newer console. Let's talk about that, then.

The first Valis game was released on MSX. It looks like this:

Is that better than the PCE release, which looks like this?

Is this game

Better than this one?

As much as I love Riviera on the Wonderswan, and has its specific charms related to resolution and colore palette, would you say the japanese-only wonderswan original is superior to playing it on GBA or PSP in English with extra content?

Even the lovely Panzer Dragoon. Is the Saturn version

Truly superior to the PS2 version, which just increases the fidelity of the textures?

I could go on forever, but original is not always best, and quite often the original can't fully execute the developers' desired vision.

[reliq]

Yes, superior equipment doesn't mean it will play better

many ports and subsequent releases include significant patches and fixes, especially in the earlier days. soukyuugurentai for the saturn - the original has some bugs that are fixed by the saturn collection edition, which also adds english support. is the original better?

The xbox port of Silent Hill 2 adds significant content, which was backported to PS2 in a greatest hits edition. Is the original superior?

Virtua Fighter 4 released on PS4, but a greatest hits version, Virtua Fighter 4 Evolution, includes game balancing, loads of features, and a 10th anniversary edition of Virtua Fighter. Is the original better?

Speaking of Virtua Fighter, the original Saturn port was so poorly put together, so maligned by fans, that Sega put out Virtua Fighter Remix, with better textures, a faster framerate, and all around better handling. Is the original Virtua Fighter the better game?

But though you didn't say it explicitly, I guess you probably mean a game on its original console is always better than a port to a newer console. Let's talk about that, then.

The first Valis game was released on MSX. It looks like this:

Is that better than the PCE release, which looks like this?

Is this game

Better than this one?

As much as I love Riviera on the Wonderswan, and has its specific charms related to resolution and colore palette, would you say the japanese-only wonderswan original is superior to playing it on GBA or PSP in English with extra content?

Even the lovely Panzer Dragoon. Is the Saturn version

Truly superior to the PS2 version, which just increases the fidelity of the textures?

I could go on forever, but original is not always best, and quite often the original can't fully execute the developers' desired vision.

Yes the original is always better. do you want me to show you bad ports to newer consoles or to PC?
Damn I didn't even notice you were the guy that said he makes games for a living, not sure why I am even replying to you

[SignOfZeta]

The original is always the original and if you want original then nothing else would do. This is completely independent of quality though. There are many games on PCE that themselves are superior conversions from other system and even defining "original" is hard sometimes.

If you were collecting music or something this would actually make sense (I collect New Order 12" singles from Factory Records exclusively) but it just doesn't hold up with games. You're going to have Drac X sure, but also Energy and Darkwing Duck and crapola like that, omitting games like Advanced VG which is fun and way better than the PC game it was made from.

I often stick to a particular version for ages (CVS2 on DC, for example) and rarely buy HD remixes and shit like that but really your theory just doesn't work because it leads to f*cked up piles of junk nobody wants or plays ever like Battlefield in Tokyodome '94 or whatever.

[ClodBuster]

I decide on a game-by-game basis which version meets my taste better than the other.

Unless for old music, where I try to avoid any remasters IF reasonably possible. But that's a whole different story about loudness war and can not be compared to video games in my opinion, and I agree with Zeta about that.

[Necromancer]

"original is always better!"

Really?  Anyone want to argue that NES Bomberman is better than PCE Bomberman?