Super SD System 3

[Keith Courage]

are the jail bars still present with xrgb series upscanner converters? 

I assume they would be since this is something that some systems can put out if the jail bar fix is not performed inside the system. Not all systems suffer from jail bars. Meaning, I test every system I perform an RGB mod on first before adding the extra caps for the fix. The fix can actually make things worse if performed on a system that didn't have jail bars to begin with.

[ClodBuster]

(...) some Fatal Fury 2 (...) how the shadows look under the characters in battle.  They look weird on my RGB converter to HDMI on my LCD. (...)

Please watch this:

[Johnpv]

Over on the Shmups forums this thing is getting ripped on over RGB issues (it sounds like csync isn't working for a lot of people), and now audio buzzing.  Anyone who has one here experience anything? 

I did see they're working with Voultar, and getting a proper MD2 RGB csync cable from retrogamingcables.co.uk to help improve the product.

[pixeljunkie]

Not sure when mine will get here - but I will report back. Not too worried about it, honestly. I have a JP21 RGB cable for my Megadrive 2 I am anxious to test out. I'm aware of the dangers of early adopting, especially indie hardware.

[MNKyDeth]

Hopefully they can find better cables then retrogamingcables as they have issues in the normal composite TG16 cables they sell. Usually bad solder joints to ground.

I don't have one nor purchased one. So I don't know any overall issues. I am however curious if they balanced the RGB colors properly for accurate color output.

I would think moving to an 8pin din and wiring them up like the standard modders here do they would have plenty of quality scart type cables to choose from instead of megadrive cables.

[Black Tiger]

TEDs also cause too much "buzzing" and misc noise.

Having every game in one tiny package with faster loading and unlimited saves is already much more of a value than the asking price.

The RGB output is only a bonus.

[mickcris]

Yes, they should have just used a normal sized din and not bothered with c-sync as it doesn't look like the circuit they made works anyways.  Using a genesis 2 cable has always been a bad idea due to the differences in the output voltage of the pc engine and genesis. Some people prefer it though for some reason.

They did botch the rgb part of this due to little to no research prior to making it.  After some discussion over at the shmups forum, they added a 21 or 22 ohm resistor inside the system in series with the 75 ohms in the cable to make it be about 96 or 97 ohms to bring the voltage down to 0.7v.  This makes it so there is an impedance mismatch (like the amps with the 100 ohm resistor i used to sell), but it should work fine.  Although it looks like there are possibly still some issues besides the voltage that still need worked out.

Some people have reportedly already tried what proper built c-sync cables and they did not work.  I dont think anyone so far has got a c-sync cable to work.  Probably best just to use a composite video sync cable.

You should still be able to use an internal mod if you already have one installed.

[MNKyDeth]

I just read up on the overall situation on the other forums. Seems the product works but there are a few issues that can be worked around. Type of cables mostly....

The audio and video noise bleeding together would be my main concern and I hope they resolve that in a newer revision of the pcb. I am not sure if that is what is needed, just going off the information I read.


However it looks like they are trying to get it all worked out. I wish them the best of luck as I possibly want one of these down the road. But I'll wait and watch for a while to see how things pan out further.

[Keith Courage]

If I ever decide to buy one of these, I would plan to use a standard pc engine with it so I can have a S-video jack for use on my CRT. I don't like the look of RGB personally. Especially when used on a modern HD TV. Makes me feel like I'm playing on an emulator.

I don't think they will move away from a megadrive style RGB /av port. Too many people in parts of Europe love Sega. So it makes it more convenient for them to have cables that will work with it.

[xelement5x]

If I ever decide to buy one of these, I would plan to use a standard pc engine with it so I can have a S-video jack for use on my CRT. I don't like the look of RGB personally. Especially when used on a modern HD TV. Makes me feel like I'm playing on an emulator.

I don't think they will move away from a megadrive style RGB /av port. Too many people in parts of Europe love Sega. So it makes it more convenient for them to have cables that will work with it.

Well, and the MD2 cable is pretty much a standard with all the pins you need for this devices compared to that of like an RGB modded Duo.  There is no real standard there, you can put those top 3 pins in whatever order you want for the color lines and as long as they match for the input you are okay. 

I do wonder though, if they did this because they didn't want to include a cable of their own making in the package (cost saving), or if they just figured most people would have MD 2 RGB cables. 

[GohanX]

The video output is more of an afterthought, I think. The primary purpose is to be a ODE, and they knew that they needed to have at least audio output for proper sound. While you're doing that, you already have easy access to RGB and composite, so all you have to do is add a DIN and a few caps/resistors and you have a cool extra feature.

Unfortunately, it seems that there is a design flaw and the RGB output is pretty noisy. They're working on a fix. I haven't received mine yet to see for myself.

[Gypsy]

Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

[xelement5x]

Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

I think that is it's kind of a stretch to call it a total piece of shit.  It still handles CD images and emulates that excellently from what I've heard.  The main complaints are in the RGB outputs too, so it's likely this is something that will be rectified in a later revision.  Early adopters always take this risk with hardware, but I'm glad they're out there.

[jperryss]

I think that is it's kind of a stretch to call it a total piece of shit.  It still handles CD images and emulates that excellently from what I've heard.  The main complaints are in the RGB outputs too, so it's likely this is something that will be rectified in a later revision.  Early adopters always take this risk with hardware, but I'm glad they're out there.

And so far it looks like they're doing their best to make things right, even for the early adopters.

[pixeljunkie]

Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

hahahaha OK