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Gypsy

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #180 on: January 25, 2018, 03:18:33 AM »
Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

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Looks like complete ass, games glitch. But sure, it's great.

Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

I think that is it's kind of a stretch to call it a total piece of shit.  It still handles CD images and emulates that excellently from what I've heard.  The main complaints are in the RGB outputs too, so it's likely this is something that will be rectified in a later revision.  Early adopters always take this risk with hardware, but I'm glad they're out there.

When you charge $350 some testing and making it properly is in order. Oversights and simple errors like these reek of incompetence at best. Seems like to me they rushed it it out, maybe they were too excited about it, or about making money.

It's good that they plan to fix it. However they shouldn't get any kind of free pass, they are selling a product, like any business/store and should be held accountable. So really they are doing the baseline acceptable thing after f*cking up royally. If they hadn't, people should have hit them with paypal claims/cc chargebacks. Good thing that isn't needed now.

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #181 on: January 25, 2018, 03:23:00 AM »
Glitches, eh, and not just RGB issues?  How bad are they and on how many games?
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Gypsy

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #182 on: January 25, 2018, 03:24:30 AM »
Glitches, eh, and not just RGB issues?  How bad are they and on how many games?

I'd like to see more testing on that end honestly.

The video issues are really bad.

Edit: To be clear, I want this thing to be good. I will eventually be buying one if they make it not suck.
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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #183 on: January 25, 2018, 03:30:14 AM »
Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

Have you only read the shmups thread or something?
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Gypsy

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #184 on: January 25, 2018, 03:31:58 AM »
Turns out this thing is a total piece of shit. Hope no one here bought one...

Have you only read the shmups thread or something?

Read multiple threads and posts. Seen a lot of screen shots. Certainly I won't be buying one myself at this point to test.

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« Reply #185 on: January 25, 2018, 03:45:51 AM »
If you'd bother to check out the official response posted at the Neo-Geo forums as Alex made an entire thread and breakdown on it with admission of guilt, break down of the issues, both picture and video evidence, appreciation and thanks given to the specific person with technical skill that got the breakthrough you'd see a few things.

It's not a piece of shit.  It's technically not even broken exactly, unless you're into going through an RGB connector from the looks of it.  They've not only used their own further research and that helpers, but have already corrected the problems, created a whole new updated PCB, and they've mailed that off to their hardware people who manufacture the boards.  They'll have them in hand in February.

Any existing people with a unit can ship them back.  They're already setting up bulk mailers in heavy buyer countries (USA has one already) to return for replacement.  Furthermore until they get the boards and assemble them into shells all shipments are halted, any existing orders are on hold.

They've handled it like gentlemen and pros, no buck passing, no being a bitch about it, even admitting fault where it lies, where they failed to properly test on specific games (like Bonk 3 which showed it well), and what their financial losses are estimated into the 1000s of euros to do the recall and recreation.

I don't think the snark is warranted.

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #186 on: January 25, 2018, 03:52:22 AM »
I did say they are handling it correctly, so good on them for that. I won't cry about them losing money though.
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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #187 on: January 25, 2018, 06:29:46 AM »
No tears for me on him "losing money" either, not when the consumer has to eat shipping and disassemble/reassemble their system.  Test your shit better, listen to others (the sync issue was known before shipping), and don't treat your paying customers as beta testers.
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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #188 on: January 25, 2018, 06:48:03 AM »
Yup - Glad it's being handled well, hope everyone ends up happy

Nope - not going to say that criticism is warranted.

That being said I'm not going to call this a total shit failure either, I still hope to possibly pick one up when all the problems are resolved.  I mean nothing is going to 100% perfect, the original damn systems weren't.   
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« Reply #189 on: January 25, 2018, 07:14:10 AM »
Yipes, glad I bought that Everdrive before I knew about the Super SD system, then. I was seriously thinking about returning the ED (when it finally arrives) and getting one of those for the CD capabilities. I'll just stick with the ED for now.

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #190 on: January 25, 2018, 05:50:59 PM »
so let me get this straight, if you have a modified rgb pc engine, then the super system 3 has problems with it, but if you have non modified pc engine, then super system 3  should have no problems with it, in RGB or composite mode.

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #191 on: January 25, 2018, 06:35:22 PM »
so let me get this straight, if you have a modified rgb pc engine, then the super system 3 has problems with it, but if you have non modified pc engine, then super system 3  should have no problems with it, in RGB or composite mode.


Your assumption is incorrect.
The device it seems... Introduces noise into the audio and video signals. It will not matter if a system is already modded or not.

The other issue is the megadrive cables and the internal RGB mod they did does not have the proper caps/resistors  to balance the video signal for proper color output. Also using a pure sync setup is causing issues as most displays prefer a composite sync signal for sync.

This is my take on it and I could be wrong.

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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #192 on: January 26, 2018, 12:22:36 AM »
This is all typical early adopter issues with new hardware.  I didn't order one so I don't have no stake in any of this since I already have like 10 ways to play pc-engine games.  I'm just saying if big companies can have hardware issues it is possible for a smaller company like this to have the same.

I learned my lesson being an early adopter of home theater gear that now I am very patient.  I will probably get one of these or the GDEMU ode whenever that comes out.   

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« Reply #193 on: January 26, 2018, 04:12:43 AM »
For anyone that was hesitant on ordering a SSDS3, I would say go for it. The Terraonion team has proven themselves as a company, at least in my eyes. There were initial very minor problems with the Neosd when it was first released. The problems were fixed for EVERYBODY including the early adopters. The NeoSD is now 100% compatible.

As far as the SSDS3, the team immediately halted shipping units upon hearing of the problems. They have since released a statement apologizing for the mistake they made. They worked with some experts and revised the circuit boards to correct the video and audio issues. Those issues have been corrected. They have also basically recalled all currently released devices, and are replacing them to EVERYBODY. Any issues with games are being addressed in firmware so I fully expect the device will be 100% compatible over time with firmware updates.

 This company has a great track record of correcting any issues that come up. They don't leave early adopters with faulty devices, they make sure the fix the problems for everyone. I have full confidence in the team. I have ordered both devices, and will continue to support them in the future. If they make a product you are interested in, order one with confidence. If a problem arises, they have proven they will do their best in correcting it and making every customer happy.
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Re: Super SD System 3
« Reply #194 on: January 26, 2018, 02:39:37 PM »
I have one and it's great. Eat my dick.