Son Son II - in western magazines

[Purple1308]

CVG was like the Euro version of VG&CE right?

Not exactly, no.

I wonder if I could find something about Son Son II in my Video Games & Computer Entertainment mags. 

Thanks!!

I'll look to see if Video Games & Computer Entertainment has any coverage.

EGM mentioned "Son Son 2" in their second full issue.



I'd like to check if the Fall 1991 issue of Super Gaming had a review, but can't find any scans of it.

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[seieienbu]

As I understood it, the orient was mostly referring to Eastern Asian countries.  When I was a kid it wasn't considered any deal at all to refer to someone from China, Korea, Japan, etc as Oriental.  Later on I was informed that oriental can refer to food, things, places, but not people; it is offensive to use it in that manner. 

Maybe it wasn't offensive when I was a kid but as people find it offensive now I don't use the term outside of referring to stuff.

[Black Tiger]

"Oriental" has been considered out-of-date or offensive since at least my early teens and that's likely only the age that I clued in. But it wasn't that I grew up in an oversensitive progressive community, just the opposite. It's regularly come up in news and entertainment since at least that time.




Like many insensitive language terms or concepts, you can rationalize outside of context like history, how something shouldn't be offensive. But many things (like swastikas) just happened to be tied to negative events, trends, misc for a lot of people. In most cases it comes from a many people using something intentionally to slight people for a long time and not simply a new generation of overly sensitive snowflakes looking for out of date terms.

I'm not overly sensitive and don't get offended or worked up over a lot of "politically incorrect" stuff and I really don't like the trend of young people coopting things like gender or sexuality identity for attention. I think that's the most offensive thing you can do to the actual minority of people dealing with things like that for real.

So although I don't think that many things should be offensive, in most cases it really is no big deal to not say something that affects many people negatively. It's no different than all the ways we've subconciously learned how to avoid being rude, just from living in society. Except that it's something you are concious of.

Like in Eddie Murphy Delirious when he said that racism levels have improved, since people don't call him that word anymore. But maybe they only wait for him to leave the room.

[gilbert]

Well. That's odd. Maybe the word is considered offensive in the west (and to Asians living in the west). For Asians living in, errr...  Asia we don't really care (or, probably, don't know about any implications).

[cccmar]

Possibly it's kinda like Eastern Europeans using 'negr' (sounds rather similar to one particular word in English) to address black people, because calling somebody straight-up black there is much more offensive, for historic reasons, and of course Afro-American doesn't apply geographically either. In other words, such terms are based on socio-cultural factors and the local history.
I've rarely ever heard Oriental used these days in Ireland, but there was a time when it could be heard pretty much constantly, both IRL and in the news, so there could be something to that.

[nopepper]

Although thankfully I dont recollect ever using the term towards Asians, it's also news to me that Oriental is derogatory in that context. I moved to CO in 99 (from Puerto Rico) and had never heard anyone point this out either, but there is not as big an Asian population here as in the CA and Pacific Northwest.

With the growing number of words that are added to the nonPC list, I wouldn't be surprised if soon we will all be using a form of newspeak, for chrissakes.

[TheOldMan]

With the growing number of words that are added to the nonPC list, I wouldn't be surprised if soon we will all be using a form of newspeak, for chrissakes.

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[soop]

As far as I remember, in the 90's the three latter version was never seen as offensive.  At a guess, I'd say it was probably due to the UK never being directly involved in hostilities with Japan the same way the USA was.  For us, it was literally just a convenient three letter shortening you'd see in a column on black market import pages.  I was surprised in the mid-2000's when I was told it was offensive (on a forum obvs).  And the only time I've heard anyone use the term "Orientals" was an autistic fellow I had an aquaintence with.

Mind you, we have our own offensive terms.  the term "Chinky" get's banded about very casually sometimes, and I can feel my cheeks flush with embarrassment

[turboswimbz]

probably due to the UK never being directly involved in hostilities with Japan the same way the USA was.  For us, it was literally just a convenient three letter shortening you'd see in a column on black market import pages.

I get Jap may not have been considered particularly racist, but neither were a lot of once accepted words, societies change and so do the pressures of polite conversation.  I don't buy this for one second.  Just because I say something offensive and is just convenient doesn't mean it isn't hurtful towards people, or was originally used in such a way.


I'd like to point out that counter to your argument:
The battles of Singapore and Hong Kong are quite relevant. (Both were under British control at the time, and contained British Military bases/fleets)
Further, the UK was heavily involved in most of the Pacific naval theater.

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