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[GUTS]

Keranu you're not understanding even though I've made it clear quite a few times.  I've said TONS of times that I have no problem paying a reasonable price for roms, for example the collections that give you 20+ games for $20 or if the virtual console games were $1-$3 apiece.  But when the roms are extremely overpriced (like the VC games), I would rather go download them for free and wish everyone else would too to send a message to Nintendo that they are greedy f*ckfaces.  I have no problem supporting a company as long as the price is fair.

And I completely agree with Steve here, all companies are guilty of milking stuff, but Nintendo has made an art form of f*cking their fans over.

Mega Man and Street fighter rule.  Deal with it.

[Keranu]

Steve, nice post. I can agree with you there.

Well sorry GUTS, I wasn't aware they would be willing to pay for ROMs at all. However I don't think the Virtual Console is designed for people like us though.

Mega Man and Street fighter rule.  Deal with it.

Sorry, I'm not going to deal with that. 

[ParanoiaDragon]

The NES Megaman games aren't really anymore more rehashes than the 8 & 16-bit Sonic and Bonk games.

I slightly agree, but mostly disagree. I agree that besides the growing and shrinking feature of Bonk 3, it's mostly a rehash of Revenge. However Revenge was a fresh sequel to Adventure, better than any Mega Man NES sequels have done. Sonic's sequels did a fine job creating fresh new graphics and coming up with new ideas.

I think that most of the things people have accused Capcom of here are things that most other major publisher/developers are guilty of.

That's probably true but in my opinion, Capcom's guilts are much severe.

I also think that anyone should feel free to hate Capcom as much as anyone else hates any other particular company. 

Thank you! It's hard to be a Capcom-hater since it's such a well-loved company. Please don't think I have no respect at all for Capcom though because Street Fighter II is one of the most revolutionary games ever made.

Bonk's Revenge is to Bonk's Adventure is what Megaman 2 is to Megaman 1(have you played through all 4 games?).

Both originals were good ideas that weren't fully fleshed out or refined and each sequal is the definitive version of each series. If anything, Megaman 2 adds a lot more than Bonk's revenge does.

The later Megamans become repetative/rehashes as I understand it(I don't have much experience with the series after part III).

But don't forget about the other 7 Bonk games on NES, GB, SNES and Amiga. Just because Nintendo's illegal business practices kept the first batch of 6 Megamans on the same console doesn't change the fact that in roughly the same time period Hudson dropped 10 similar Bonk games on the world.

Plus there's at least 8 of the same kind of Sonic games for Genesis, Sega-CD and Master System.

If anything, Megaman's 8-bit outings are one of the more modest major console serieses. 

Personally, I wish more game serieses wouldn't try to change things so quickly. Or at least the good ones. Too many great games get sequals that have nothing to do with the original. At least Japan got the real SMB2(so did my hometown, but thats another story ).  I'm still waiting for a faithful sequal to Phantasy Star and an Ys style Ys III. 

Ys 3 in Ys style?  Look no further the Oath in Felghana, released in the summer of 06.  Beautiful game, beautiful music, & there's an english patch coming soon!  I can't praise the game enough, as it rules!  Though, I think now, Ys Origins is my favorite Ys.  Yeah, the 3 latest Ys aren't bump n' grind like 1, 2, & 4.  But, they're as close as you'll get to the original gameplay, while being being made in this day & age.  I HIGHLY recomend them!

[Joe Redifer]

I can't keep track of all of these crazy Ys games.  Please sort them out for me or I will send you an annoying PM everyday.

[Michael Helgeson]

I kinda skipped back and forth on this abit,but to me,the VC is a nice idea,up until the actual price takes place. The only part I'd use it for is N64 titles because of how they have been with it so far,and maybe arcade games if they would actually do some arcade game emulation,and it was done correctly. Otherwise what I would rather see is them selling rom packs on a disc,that let you pull the games off the disc,transfer them to memory,and use them that way on VC.

I know this means your disc would then work on any one else's Wii,as the roms wouldn't be individualized for each system,but I mean hey,you paid for the game,you should be allowed to do with it as you please on whatever Wii you have access to. Maybe  a better way of doing it would have been the games being dl'ed straight to a memory card,and the VC only being able to access them from the card,not the system memory,and the memory manager being smart enough to not let you copy roms over to multiple cards. This way you could then access the rom on others systems,and if they are worried about copies,this would keep you from giving freebees away to friends who did not pay for the rom.

 I think there is going to be problems with this latter on in the systems future,when enough people realize they have paid to own a game that they have no real freedom of use with.Part of buying a piece of software is the fact you are supposed to be able to use it as you please. I think this even came into law in some aspect during game system reverse engineering trials in the late 80ies-early 90ies.

[FM-77]

There isn't much craziness about the Ys series, although Falcom is trying to become the next Capcom by releasing new identical super expensive (how does $100 sound?) and ultra short games every year.

Ys 1
Ys 2
Ys 3
Ys 4
[size=8]Ys 4 PCE (non-canonical, but great nevertheless*)[/size]
Ys 5
2003 -Ys 6

OTHER STUFF

1998 - Ys ETERNAL (fantastic Ys 1 remake)
2000 - Ys II ETERNAL (fantastic Ys 2 remake)
2001 - Ys I - II COMPLETE (ever-so-slightly upgraded versions of Ys 1-2 Eternal, cheap of Falcom to re-release them like that, but that doesn't make the games any worse)
2005 - Ys: The Oath in Felghana (Ys 3 remake with super repetitive gameplay and poor level designs)
2006 - Ys Origin (prequel to Ys 1 with super repetitive gameplay and poor level designs)

Falcom sure is milking their old franchise, and are even making hardcore fans like myself steadily growing a certain dislike for the series.

*This text was actually going to be tiny, but I made a mistake and made it huge instead. Not changing it- it is more fun this way.

[Keranu]

The big text rulez!

[termis]

I actually only played Ys IV a few months ago, and while it was good, it somehow wasn't as satisfying as Ys I-II.  I thought the music was a notch below I-II (the TG version of course), and while everything was more polished, it just wasn't a huuuge improvement over the original 2.  I can only point to the cut scenes looking better, sprites seem to be more vibrant, but that's about it.  Had I not known, I really wouldn't be able to tell that this game came out 4-5 years after the original I-II.

Take the Phantasy Star series, there were clear and noticeable changes and/or improvements between I-IV (even the black sheep part III-not necessarily better, but different enough) - and I didn't see this so much with Ys IV.

Now that I think about it, yeah, I guess they were starting to milk the series at this point in time.  But strangely enough, I wouldn't mind playing part V sometime down the future, which doesn't look all that different still.

[GUTS]

Ys V is WAY different, try a rom out and you'll see.  I personally really liked it and even beat it when I imported it years ago, but many people can't stand it (kind of like Ys III, I love it but most Ys fans don't like it much).  I'm stoked that somebody is trying to translate V, I can't wait to play through it again in English.

[Keranu]

I want to play through Ys V sometime, just not sure when though. If the translated ROM comes out soon, I'll probably play it then.

[FM-77]

I wasn't talking about Ys V. I personally find it to be one of the finest games in the series.

But after Ys VI (which is nice), the Ys series has died for me. I almost can't stand Ys The Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin (the latter which I never even bothered to finish, I just uninstalled it after spending some incredibly boring hours with it), such obvious attempts at milking the series... with a very, VERY unmodern engine to boot (it was fairly impressive in 2003, but now it's just pathetic).

By the way - the Ys V translation will probably come out this march. Stay tuned!

[nat]

Ys V is WAY different, try a rom out and you'll see.  I personally really liked it and even beat it when I imported it years ago, but many people can't stand it (kind of like Ys III, I love it but most Ys fans don't like it much).  I'm stoked that somebody is trying to translate V, I can't wait to play through it again in English.

I've been playing Ys III a bit lately. I like it well enough, it's a bit different, but that's OK. Change is good sometimes. It's like Zelda II in that regard. The graphics are nice enough, but the thing that gets me is the god damn HORRIBLE scrolling. What the hell happened here? How could a game get released like this? If I were Hudson I'd be embarrassed to have my name on it. If I squint and pretend it's not there I like the game just fine. The music rocks.

[FM-77]

Nat: Ys III is a fun game, but the PCE version is simply unplayable. Get another version. ANY version.

[Joe Redifer]

I know Ys V had one good musical selection.  That was Super Duper Famicom only, correct?  Also why were the shitty versions of Ys 4 so different from the PCE version which was programmed by Jesus or Allah or someone holy?

[FM-77]

The only shitty Ys 4 version is the PS2 one. That is the worst game ever made in the history of time. Play it and die.