Author Topic: Vigilante is Hard???  (Read 1797 times)

offsidewing

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2007, 08:32:08 AM »
HAHAHAH!!! OH SHIT!!!! Man, you got it right down to the soul. It is sooo damn sad how people are spoiled these days with games. I still see reviews of Ninja Gaiden for the X-box being "OMFG it is really hard". Lazy unskilled bastards. It is sad how bad people are in the new gaming generation. I remember recently seeing a game tournament on Gaming TV with Starz/Encore channels and I just laughed at how arrogant these guys were and how much they suck at skill.... and life as well since they felt like huge ballers that won the Thunder Dome or something.

Yeah, I don't understand what people complain about.  I am not what you would call a hard core gamer, but Vigilanti and SSS HARD?!?!?!

I'd like to see the pantie-waste that called Vigilanti hard fire up Exile:WP.

I may be way off base here, since I don't watch Gaming TV, but I would think (myself included) that anyone that considers themselves are "hard core" games be someone the than thusly kick most people's ass at Nintendogs, Hot Shots Golf 3, Wolfstein 3D, and Interstate 76 and hold some time record in FFviii.

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2007, 09:41:00 AM »
I don't know why people think Ninja Gaiden is so hard. Infinite continues gives you plenty of time to master levels ;) .
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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2007, 10:36:15 AM »
I don't know why people think Ninja Gaiden is so hard. Infinite continues gives you plenty of time to master levels ;) .

Sinistron has infinite continues.

I'd still say it's pretty f*cking hard.

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2007, 02:15:51 PM »
they through in infinite continues to rub it in your face that you can't win. Its like they're saying; " hahaha, you can never beat our game, we'll even give you infinite continues to make you feel stupid, mwahahaha."

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« Reply #19 on: July 19, 2007, 03:21:20 PM »
Sinistron has infinite continues.

I'd still say it's pretty f*cking hard.
...yet a walk in the park compared to its Japanese counterpart.

nat

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #20 on: July 19, 2007, 03:43:21 PM »
Sinistron has infinite continues.

I'd still say it's pretty f*cking hard.
...yet a walk in the park compared to its Japanese counterpart.

I've always wondered about that, having never played the Japanese version.

What could the Japanese version possibly have that makes it so much harder? More asteroids in the asteroid level? More obstacles in the maze level that follows? No powerups?

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #21 on: July 19, 2007, 03:55:53 PM »
it has kamikazes that go straight at you, ahhhh  :P

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2007, 03:57:13 PM »
it has kamikazes that go straight at you, ahhhh  :P

The US version has that!

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #23 on: July 19, 2007, 03:59:55 PM »
perhaps the japanese version being harder is just a myth or fear

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2007, 07:11:42 PM »
I don't know why people think Ninja Gaiden is so hard. Infinite continues gives you plenty of time to master levels ;) .

Sinistron has infinite continues.

I'd still say it's pretty f*cking hard.
Sinistron also doesn't have a life bar and relies on check points ;) .
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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2007, 03:32:52 AM »
I'm still curious to know what makes the Japanese version harder. I know someone here has to have played it. Speak up!

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« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2007, 07:16:37 AM »
I'm still curious to know what makes the Japanese version harder. I know someone here has to have played it. Speak up!
I have played it and beaten it, so I am somewhat familiar with all six levels. It was a long time ago though.

Level 1 doesn't introduce much more difficulty, the boss and sub-bosses are slightly harder with more complex attack patterns.

Level 2 again doesn't change much, only the boss seems to be more active in wanting to kick your ass.

Level 3 I don't really remember too much. I think there might have been more of those annoying purple swimming things., Also, I remember the armored things that shoot homing missiles being a bit tougher to kill.

Level 4 really starts the beatdown. If I remember correctly, it's got two checkpoints and is a bit longer. The attack patterns of the purple rocks gets a lot more clever (at one point, they attack from all directions at once, and quite a few of them too).

Level 5 isn't much different than the US version. The boss is trickier to beat though, he moves around a bit more.

Level 6 is a f*cking NIGHTMARE. There are TWICE as many enemies, and the final bosses are FAR harder to beat...with the exception of the final final boss, who is the same as in the US version (there's no way to make him either easier or harder). It's the first half that's the worst though...the layout is similar to the US version except now you've got these annoying green sperm-things that swim in from the top and the bottom that are far tougher than they look.

And there's no half-level skip trick in Violent Soldier either, so there's no skipping the first half of level 6. You've gotta fight every level honestly.

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2007, 08:19:31 AM »
Thanks.  I'll have to try it sometime.

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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2007, 08:30:30 AM »
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It's the first half that's the worst though...the layout is similar to the US version except now you've got these annoying green sperm-things that swim in from the top and the bottom that are far tougher than they look.

The US version has those.  I just replayed Sinistron a few weeks ago, and I definitely had to deal with sperm-things swimming in from the top and bottom in level 6.  Maybe Violent Soldier has them for a longer stretch, but they're present in Sinistron. 

But thanks for the comparison notes.  I've loved Sinistron for ages, and I'm really looking forward to Violent Soldier's higher level of difficulty. 
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Re: Vigilante is Hard???
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2007, 12:36:18 PM »
This kinda counter balances the shitty reviews.
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