HuCard games on CD

[Supremo_Lagarto]

Agreed.

The SuperHuCard disc as it exists today is a nice proof-of-concept, but serves little other purpose as far as I'm concerned.

People keep saying "it's only a proof of concept". It is more than that as in it's current state there are a dozen fairly decent games that work perfectly on the disc. If all 256kb Turbo Grafx games (these are mainly the oldest and cheesiest) can be altered and put on a CD it could only serve to generate interest in the PC Engine and Duo Consoles. Anyone can play these games on an emulator, but this CD makes you want to play them on a real console, which means you would have to own a real CD playing console. The more people that have consoles, the more interest there is going to be in all of the other Duo games, and that includes real homebrew projects.

Not sure why so many people want to kill development on this thing.

[ccovell]

...if I don't have the actual physical game I flake out on it real easily. It's almost like I think that since it was free why should I put the effort into finishing the game. Especially when I can just switch to the next one. Maybe that's what having ADHD is like? lol

Exactly that.  It could be called emulator syndrome or MAME syndrome or somesuch.  If you have 1000 other games, you tend to give up on one of them after the first player death.

Back when I was a poor kid I spent weeks playing just Balloon Fight with my brother.  Poverty = dedication.

But I'll chip in and say Super HuCard is a great effort and really cool.  (Has proven useful a few times too.)

[Arkhan]

I dunno, I'd think people would be more hip to experimenting with a 40$ TG or PCE and a flash card.

More bang for your buck, and resell-able if you end up hating it. 

Though anyone that doesn't like the PCE is a dumbass and shouldn't be allowed to talk to the world.

[Mishran]

The Hucard CD is only useful, IMO, as a "try before you buy" novelty item, much like emulation. I've used both to try games, both on PC and on actual hardware. Beats paying $5-500 on a game that you won't like or play. A flash cart is great if you travel and don't wish to carry a shit load of game carts with you. Play, reset, pick a new game... wash, rinse, repeat. Sooo want one for my Turbo Express. Hurry up PCE Everdrive!

[Arkhan]

Yeah I mean it would be great if the entire SuperHuCard was setup to finally work... but It won't happen anytime soon.  None of the developers seem to show any interest in getting it working anytime soon.

I myself am only interested in making new things, so I won't ever bother.  It will take someone who is into hacking and screwing around with things until they work.

By then, the everdrive will be out, so screw it.

[Necromancer]

Not sure why so many people want to kill development on this thing.

I don't think anyone wants to outright kill this project, we just don't see much value in it; if someone is going to purchase a Duo (not cheap), then shelling out another $60 for a flashcart doesn't seem unreasonable and gains access to larger titles too, at which point this disc is useless.  Plus, the amount of work needed to make these games work is substantial, and in our opinion the effort is better put towards new projects.

[Keranu]

Wouldn't an added benefit of the Super HuCard CD over a flashcart be that it's region free? I never used any PCE flashcarts, but I'd think they'd have to follow a region-specific pin layout like any other HuCard.

[Necromancer]

I never used any PCE flashcarts, but I'd think they'd have to follow a region-specific pin layout like any other HuCard.

Yes and no. Either region can be set when you write games to the flash cart, but you have to rewrite everything to switch regions.

[Supremo_Lagarto]

On second thought, I'm being dumb. As it stands the Super Hucard compilation is fun, but if one were to complete it with a lot of this stuff for sale on the virtual consoles there is small chance it could be traced back to one of the people who hacked the rom images and we don't want that. Most people don't realize that there are actually a ton of games on it that work perfect as they are hidden among piles of games that glitch, freeze, or won't start at all.  As it is, you have Legendary Axe I, Legendary Axe II (the Japanese version), R-Type, JJ & Jeff, and Dragon Spirit. Really, that is enough for a great time. It would be nice if Gradius, Paranoia, and Salamander worked (they don't), but these are not difficult games to find anyway.

[Arkhan]

On second thought, I'm being dumb.

there is small chance it could be traced back to one of the people who hacked the rom images and we don't want that.

You said it. lol

[Supremo_Lagarto]

On second thought, I'm being dumb.

there is small chance it could be traced back to one of the people who hacked the rom images and we don't want that.

You said it. lol

Gee, how did I know you were going to quote that?

[Arkhan]

On second thought, I'm being dumb.

there is small chance it could be traced back to one of the people who hacked the rom images and we don't want that.

You said it. lol

Gee, how did I know you were going to quote that?

You didn't. 

[esteban]

...if I don't have the actual physical game I flake out on it real easily. It's almost like I think that since it was free why should I put the effort into finishing the game. Especially when I can just switch to the next one. Maybe that's what having ADHD is like? lol

Exactly that.  It could be called emulator syndrome or MAME syndrome or somesuch.  If you have 1000 other games, you tend to give up on one of them after the first player death.

Back when I was a poor kid I spent weeks playing just Balloon Fight with my brother.  Poverty = dedication.

But I'll chip in and say Super HuCard is a great effort and really cool.  (Has proven useful a few times too.)

Exactly: poverty = dedication.

I am still trying to make progress on Athena (NES) because I still feel I was cheated by SNK when I was a kid.  These days, I still try to glean some fun/entertainment out of every game that falls into my hands...it just stinks that my time for playing is so limited and fleeting.

Athena had the potential to be a fantastic game. Too bad.

[Arkhan]

The NES Athena is kind of wonky.   Sometimes I would swear I just randomly die.

I love it though! 

[arromdee]

if one were to complete it with a lot of this stuff for sale on the virtual consoles there is small chance it could be traced back to one of the people who hacked the rom images and we don't want that.

I don't think there's much more of a chance of that than of someone tracing back, oh, the person who put up a torrent of a complete PCE game set (which does exist), or a person who translated Dracula X even though it's available on the Virtual Console, or the manufacturer of the Everdrive.  Ultimately the CD isn't going to be any more trouble than a bunch of ROMs plus an emulator, and you see those around all the time.