Wonderboy In Monsterland vs Chan and Chan

[Turbo D]

I'm with you man, you're not alone on this one. Long live kato and ken chan!!!!

[nat]

but if i'm honest, i really believe that kk-chan has good grafics, and still have nowadays. may be i'm a very lonely one with that opinion, but regarding to its natural level build-up and nice drawed lively elements i think i'm not that wrong.

Make no mistake, folks: Tatsujin is simply drowning himself in wrongness. 

[Keranu]

But you do make a good point about being made in 1987 now that I think about it. Compared to other PCE games at the time, Kato and Ken Chan seemed ahead.

and compared to any other games released back in that time on any existing home systems, it seemed just one more time a little bit further ahead.

but if i'm honest, i really believe that kk-chan has good grafics, and still have nowadays. may be i'm a very lonely one with that opinion, but regarding to its natural level build-up and nice drawed lively elements i think i'm not that wrong.

I agree, but I think Kato and Ken Chan's graphics have a certain charm that can only appeal to some people. People are overlooking the 1987 time frame too, however. Back then, there was practically only NES and SMS and Kato and Ken Chan is certainly a nice step into the next generation graphics I'd say. The game really flourishes in detail compared to, say, Super Mario 3 (which wasn't even out by that time).

[Tatsujin]

my words. therefore it was and still is a nice game, also in graphical issues. or, any other games up till kato/ken chan looking awful and piteous as well. that's a pure matter of opinion.

thx turbo D

[Turbo D]

your welcome 

[FM-77]

For a game from 1987, that looks pretty good. I especailly like that house. I have never seen this game before, it doesn't look like fun. The sprites in particular are awful, but nice backgrounds.

[runinruder]

Well, I'm not going to tell people what they should and shouldn't find appealing.  I think JJ and Jeff's graphics are horrible, but if folks see something in those visuals that really registers with them, I think that's great.  But I also don't think that saying JJ and Jeff looked good for its time is an indisputable statement. 

People apparently love the "huge" characters, but freakin' China Warrior was out at that time.  CW is a much better example of a game that was in its own class at the time as far as character size was concerned. 

People also say JJ&J represented a significant step forward from 8-bit times.  I'd sooner point to Victory Run, which was also out at that time and which demolished 8-bit driving games visually to a much greater extent than JJ&J beat out the NES platformers.  (In fact, I think a lot of NES platformers look better than JJ&J.)

And it was, what, three or fourth months later that R-Type hit the PC Engine?  Anyone who thinks JJ&J even comes close to R-Type visually is INSANE.  After three or four months, JJ&J's graphics were already obsolete. 

[GUTS]

Ugh those screen shots are awful, thanks for saving me the time of playing it again Tatsujin, haha.  The character sprites are large, but the backgrounds are so awful and the art is beyond terrible which I think cancels out the large characters.  I agree with runin that China Warrior was WAY more impressive at the time, I saw that one on demo at the local electronics store and was blown away (visually at least, after I played it I stuck to just admiring the graphics while playing the NES demo system instead).

[termis]

I was never impressed with KCKC's graphics, but come on now - how can you not like goofy Japanese guys dressed up in weird costumes, farting around, taking a shit in the bush, leak in the trashcan, all while dodging more shit from birds (and not the typical wimpy white-bird-poo, but nice fat, brown-logs)?

[Keranu]

I was never impressed with KCKC's graphics, but come on now - how can you not like goofy Japanese guys dressed up in weird costumes, farting around, taking a shit in the bush, leak in the trashcan, all while dodging more shit from birds (and not the typical wimpy white-bird-poo, but nice fat, brown-logs)?

I know! It's such an awesome game! People love Wonderboy and Adventure Island, but they could care less about J.J and Ken Chan ( ) when it takes the same idea but throws in all this crazy stuff.

[Spector]

I'm quite surprised to read what people are saying about Chan and Chan. I mean, the sprites in that game are clearly better animated and coloured than kung fu/china warrior. I still say that Wonderboy has more frustrating gameplay. And what is this hype about the graphics in R-Type? I don't see anything special there.

[Black Tiger]

I'm quite surprised to read what people are saying about Chan and Chan. I mean, the sprites in that game are clearly better animated and coloured than kung fu/china warrior. I still say that Wonderboy has more frustrating gameplay. And what is this hype about the graphics in R-Type? I don't see anything special there.

I was really impressed by the main character sprites of JJ & Jeff back in the day.

I mainly enjoyed the rest of the game just because it was fun, after I figured it out.

[esteban]

1. I don't think the graphics in JJ & Jeff are that bad, but the backgrounds are pretty darn sparse and the tiles are repetitive. I felt this way back when I first played it. A little more variety in the stages would have really, really helped this game 's character. Also, some of the sprites were horrible (i.e. the bird!) while others were quite nice. Overall, I like the aesthetics of the game, despite sparse look of the stages.

2. JJ & Jeff = Adventure Island + tweaks to the gameplay. It is immediately apparent that there is a direct connection between Wonderboy1, AA and JJ&Jeff that transcend the general conventions of the platforming genre.

3. I prefer AA / Wonderboy 1 to JJ & Jeff, but that's because I like racing through AA / Wonderboy (in JJ & Jeff, you have to stop and kick stuff, which slows some segments down).

4. Furries make their first appearance on home consoles courtesy of a WB1/AA clone -- how can you not love this?

[Keranu]

3. I prefer AA / Wonderboy 1 to JJ & Jeff, but that's because I like racing through AA / Wonderboy (in JJ & Jeff, you have to stop and kick stuff, which slows some segments down).

This is a good point, but I've noticed that J.J. & Jeff likes to throw in parts where it's more about the old AA racing racing than puzzle solving, which are really fun to play . My favorite being some cloud stage in the game where you have to keep running and making these really high jumps on springs that soars you off the screen. And how can we forget the classic slot-machine and wacky dialog rooms ? Truly a fantastic game.

[FM-77]

I demand screenshots of the bird.