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Kitsunexus

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« Reply #30 on: April 17, 2007, 03:08:34 PM »
I think that someone may have already pointed this out, but people who use guns for criminal intent aren't likely to have gotten their guns through legal means in the first place.

In this case, he got his guns legally, he even registered them, he just filed the numbers off so they'd have a hard time tracking him.

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« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2007, 04:12:21 AM »
All I know is that guns don't kill people - I kill people, raise the dead, and then make them perform my unholy biddings.  Muwahahahaha!
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« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2007, 05:57:54 AM »
I've already banned knives, but people are still using them so don't go blaming me for the usage of knives by people!
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« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2007, 08:40:07 AM »
I don't have a problem with guns, I love shooting my brother's small arsenal once in a while, but with how f*cked up our society is now and how guns are so glorified in the media it just doesn't seem logical to let people own them anymore.  Look at how the rest of the world views us americans- a bunch of fat, rude, gun carrying idiots- in my opinion it would be a good thing if at least hand guns were banned, even though I know it's never going to happen.

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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2007, 01:08:26 PM »
First of all, I have to extend my condolences to all 30+ students who were gunned down at Virginia Tech.  The sheer audacity of this crime is absolutely incredible and despicable.

As for gun control, the U.S. won't ban guns...ever.  As long as the Second Amendment protects people with the right to bear arms, people will continue to bear arms.

But here is where the real debate lies: should there be a stricter approach to obtaining firearms?

Personally, I think there should.  Up here in Canada, it is legal to own firearms but it's not as easy to get one as it is in the states.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but in the States, getting a gun just involves going to your local gun store, fill out a registration form, perform a check on your background, pay, and you finally get it.  In Canada, there is a good 6 months to a year registration process that involves registering your firearm to the government including providing all credentials, background checks, affidavits, the whole enchilada.  That way, the government can keep tabs on who owns firearms.  Sure, there are flaws in the system like the possibility of getting your gun stolen and not knowing what became of it but gun crime up here is pretty few and far in between.  The majority of killings where I live usually occur by way of stabbing with kitchen knives or beaning with baseball bats.

Maybe the government ought to install traceable devices in guns to make them easier to track should they get stolen or something.

Just my opinion though... :|

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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2007, 01:47:14 PM »
They should also make you get a psychological profile before you can buy a gun, that would weed out a lot of f*cking retards.

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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2007, 02:37:49 PM »
Personally, I think there should.  Up here in Canada, it is legal to own firearms but it's not as easy to get one as it is in the states.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but in the States, getting a gun just involves going to your local gun store, fill out a registration form, perform a check on your background, pay, and you finally get it.

It depends on the state, but that is the general situation, yes.  Some states have stuff like waiting periods, purchasing limits, or they require a special ID to buy guns.

That way, the government can keep tabs on who owns firearms.

Partially implemented in a few states.  To be honest, tracking isn't very effective as once the gun reaches the secondary market it really isn't tracked at all.

Maybe the government ought to install traceable devices in guns to make them easier to track should they get stolen or something.

This will never, ever, ever be implemented in the United States.  To even suggest something like this would be political suicide in most states.

They should also make you get a psychological profile before you can buy a gun, that would weed out a lot of f*cking retards.

It's called a background check?  They do check things like that! They also ask you hilarious questions on the paperwork when you buy a gun asking if you have ever been committed to a mental institution or if you have ever renounced your US citizenship (the Lee Harvey Oswald clause).

Of course, there is nothing stopping you from lying on the form.

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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2007, 03:53:03 PM »
They should also make you get a psychological profile before you can buy a gun, that would weed out a lot of f*cking retards.

That I wouldn't mind.  The background check will uncover those with a criminal background, but it won't uncover those with mental problems unless they had something really serious enough for involuntary confinement (like ㅁ suicide attempt).  Those with issues, but not "serious" enough for immediate lockup, will pass right through the background check, like that douchebag. 

That's not to say that these people won't get theirs illegally, but as I said before, stronger/stricter enforcement of existing laws is what's needed for illegal trade of guns.

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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2007, 04:13:24 PM »
It isn't cost effective NOR feasible to have a psychiatrist at every gun store.


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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2007, 04:52:21 PM »
The best way to discredit a troll is by not paying attention to him.

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« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2007, 04:55:19 PM »
Well sorry, I thought I was being relevant and informative.  :|

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« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2007, 05:04:58 PM »
It isn't cost effective NOR feasible to have a psychiatrist at every gun store.

A through psychological evaluation is already a part of the background check that a lot of countries already require.  If it works for them, why not the U.S.?  Sure it's not perfect, but the alternative is worse, as we found out.

OMFG THIS IS INSANITY....

Yeah, that was beyond absurd.  To the point where I think it's literally a joke by someone.