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geise

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arcade card duo not working!
« on: April 21, 2007, 04:43:54 AM »
Well I recently got my turbo duo sound fixed and started rocking out all my old games.  Well I have every single "original" arcade game produced, and was starting to play them again.  I play them on a US Duo with the Kisado converter and Arcade Card Duo.  I have now been having issues with these games.  The biggest problem is trying to play Sapphire.  The game loads fine but when the first level starts the sprites are just blocks.  My ship looks fine but everything else is a blocky mess.  Fatal Fury 2 seems ok, but that's the only game that plays fine.  I tried cleaning the Arcade Card Duo and the Kisado converter but have had the same results.  I tried some pc-engine Hu Card games and they all play fine with the converter.  Anyone else ever have this problem that uses the same set up as me?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I'm guessing it might be time to get another Arcade card Duo.  Thanks for any help.
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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2007, 04:50:39 AM »
The Arcade cards are really finicky to bad connections. Even though it may seem clean, clean it again. I had the same exact symptoms as your describing when I first got my Arcade card. And thats on a Duo-R without a cart adapter.

You probably need to use a mildly abrasive cleaner.

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2007, 08:12:19 AM »
You can also try fine sandpaper, or a metal nail file. These work well for me. Be sure to clean off any filings before use, of course.

FWIW, I'm sure your Arcade Card is fine.

If you still have problems after further cleaning/sanding the issue is your Kisado.

I have a Kisado that one day became a victim of the same problem that plagues toaster NESes: after years of inserting and removing carts, the contact pins eventually bend to a position where they don't make contact properly with carts anymore. Manifestations of this problem are exactly what you describe in addition to you being able to insert and remove carts from the Kisado more easily than you should. Unlike the NES, where you can simply replace the 72-pin connector inside the console with a more robust version, I don't know of any similar fix for the Kisado. I've never tried to take apart a Kisado but from previous inspection I recall determining such an operation would be extremely messy. I think the thing is just glued together.

My solution was to take a large matchbox and cut a piece of cardboard from the thin outer casing with the exact same dimensions as a HuCard. Make sure the cardboard is less than 1mm thick. Insert your cart into the Kisado so that the cardboard is underneath and flush with the cart on all sides. This will lift the cart just enough to make perfect contact with the pins in the Kisado.

As an aside, this technique can also be used on Kisados that don't have the "NES syndrome". This makes the contact between the converter and the cart much more reliable and eliminates the issues that occur when you bump or nudge the converter while playing. In fact, you can use a converter as a mini diving board in the middle of a game without your game crapping out with this technique if you so desired.

This solution is not elegant, but it is functional and works well.

geise

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2007, 11:25:16 AM »
Ok it's now working!  Thanks for the suggestions.  Yesterday before I posted I was using an eraser on the AC Duo and on the converter, and also tried rubbing alcohol and still nothing.  I thought it was the Arcade Card Duo, but it was just the front part of the Kisado Converter that needed cleaning.  Once I tried some small grit sandpaper on the converter and popped it back in it's working like a charm.  Thanks guys for the help!

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2007, 02:43:22 PM »
i have a question the search engine cant answer. Will the arcade card pro work on a modded duo?
AKA jetblue
Gentlemen behold...The chopsado!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/jetbue7/prchopsado.jpg tg-16 region converter or some weird bow tie

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2007, 07:40:57 PM »
i have a question the search engine cant answer. Will the arcade card pro work on a modded duo?

From what I read, yes.

But the pro version is about 2-3x more expensive, and I hear some SCD games have slight sound glitches with them (i.e. Rayxanber III).  Though I don't know if that glitch surfaces for Duo + Arcade Card Pro setups.

So unless you already have a pro card, or have multiple systems (a Duo/SCD-ROM2 AND a briefcase system), just go the for the Arcade Card Duo version.

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2007, 07:12:35 PM »
ah i see,thanks. I have a pro card so i saved me some dinars from buying the arcade card duo. So the arcade card pro is like the king of all the system cards. The big honcho.
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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v238/jetbue7/prchopsado.jpg tg-16 region converter or some weird bow tie

termis

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2007, 08:42:55 AM »
ah i see,thanks. I have a pro card so i saved me some dinars from buying the arcade card duo. So the arcade card pro is like the king of all the system cards. The big honcho.

I suppose you can say that, though you still need a couple other cards if you want to play every damn PCE game out there. 

1. System Card 1.0 for Altered Beast.  AB has problems with 2.0 and 3.0 cards, so I'd assume it has the same problem on the arcade card.  Can anyone verify this?
2. GameExpress Card for unlicensed GameExpress games.  -- I understand that this card will ONLY work with Duos or Super-CDROM2 system.  It won't work with the briefcase system, since it uses the extra 2Mbit RAM on the Duo/SSCD-ROM2 system (like the Arcade Card Duo).

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2007, 10:09:20 AM »
You are correct thumpin_termis.  You may now have one cookie.  :)
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Re: arcade card duo not working!
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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2007, 11:09:36 AM »
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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2017, 04:00:44 PM »
I hate to bump a ten-year-old thread (!), but I'm having the same problem as the original poster, though I'm using a Duo R and thus don't have a converter between the Arcade Card and my system.

At first, Sapphire gave me the "Please insert Arcade Card" screen, but after scrubbing the card with fine sandpaper a bit, now when the game loads, I get blocky graphics. I sanded with fine grit sandpaper and cleaned the contacts with alcohol several times — and of course cleaned up the mess and moisture after each session — but I always get the same result. And Sapphire is an annoying game to test too because I only know the test fails after a new game begins, which is almost a minute from turning on the system! :-({|=

I am wondering if anyone else has any "new" ideas about how to fix this. The only other thing I've tried is putting something underneath the card to prop it up a bit and make better contact with the contacts in the system, but the result is the same. Oh yeah, I should note the only other card I use in the system is an Everdrive, and it works every time I insert it.

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2017, 04:29:02 PM »
Did you clean the system?

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2017, 05:11:25 PM »
Ah, nah, you got me. I haven't cleaned the system slot yet because the Everdrive always works. But I might as well clean it to rule out that possibility. I'll work on it tomorrow night. Are the suggestions in this thread the best to follow? Your suggestion sounds cool, but I'd like to use stuff I have lying around the house.

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Re: arcade card duo not working!
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2017, 08:31:31 PM »
You should also try backing the card out of the slot slightly before turning on the system. 50% of every Arcade  card DUO I've tested has required this even after a good cleaning. Not sure if they are just an odd shape or what.