Author Topic: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?  (Read 1449 times)

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2007, 06:37:59 PM »
The versus mode is slightly entertaining, but it's nothing to wet your pants over.  The music is mediocre either way, but unless you prefer Red Book, you'll likely prefer the slightly better HuCard music.  The two versions are so close that the only two things that really matter are cost and portability, so I recommend the HuCard.
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« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2007, 07:04:13 PM »
On the other hand, I believe there was a glitch in the CD version that if you ate the big meat and tried turning into the maximum pissed off Bonk, it would still display his normal sprite.
No glitch...tis a memory limitation. Bonk 3 is a massive game, and I shudder to think of how much memory had to be dedicated to the graphics alone. It's no surprise they had to cut some to fit into 256k.

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« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2007, 09:22:31 PM »
On the other hand, I believe there was a glitch in the CD version that if you ate the big meat and tried turning into the maximum pissed off Bonk, it would still display his normal sprite.
No glitch...tis a memory limitation. Bonk 3 is a massive game, and I shudder to think of how much memory had to be dedicated to the graphics alone. It's no surprise they had to cut some to fit into 256k.
Why doesn't this problem occur in the HuCard version then?
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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2007, 09:29:26 PM »
I think Nod's talking about, how much can be loaded all at one time.  I think that includes the music, & any adpcm that is in some of the levels.  Though, I'm not the one to ask. I always thought it was a glitch as well, & wondered if someone could just fix the glitch, not to mention adding paralax.  Sounds like none of that is possible unless it was an arcade cd maybe?

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2007, 05:06:05 AM »
The versus mode is slightly entertaining, but it's nothing to wet your pants over.  The music is mediocre either way, but unless you prefer Red Book, you'll likely prefer the slightly better HuCard music.  The two versions are so close that the only two things that really matter are cost and portability, so I recommend the HuCard.

I have the SCD version and the game is ok.  Personally, I like Bonk's Revenge better but the Co-Op in 3 is cool.  The versus mode is novel for 30 seconds, but my 6 year old loves beating daddy in Bonk Wrestling.  I don't know what it is, but I feel like the CD quality music takes away from the game.  It just doesn't gel very well.

Sometime I'd like to pick up the Hu version, but I can't bring myself to spend any more that $50 on ANY video game no matter how much I love the Turbo.

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2007, 08:11:23 AM »
Probably because loading the sprite data from a hucard is way faster than pausing the game and loading it from a CD.

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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2007, 12:40:02 PM »
Why doesn't this problem occur in the HuCard version then?
Because the HuCard version doesn't have the 256KB limitation, a program can access the entire ROM memory space. Bonk 3 is 8mbit, or 1MB, four times the size of the SCD memory. As someone who has experimented with huge sprites on this console, I can tell you without doubt that using such hefty sprites consumes a TREMENDOUS amount of RAM. It's no surprise that these were cut from the design.

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2007, 01:27:57 PM »
As someone who has experimented with huge sprites on this console, I can tell you without doubt that using such hefty sprites consumes a TREMENDOUS amount of RAM.
Hmm I wonder what project this line is referring to? :D
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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2007, 01:37:17 AM »
The lack of case, must also explain why I have no case for soldier blade, new adventure island and hit the ice... bastards. I never realized it before.

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2007, 03:36:57 AM »
The lack of case, must also explain why I have no case for soldier blade, new adventure island and hit the ice... bastards. I never realized it before.

Yeah.  You either got lame hucard graphics with a labeled case, or cool hucard art with no case. 

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2007, 05:49:32 PM »
One cool thing about the cd version, is that the manual features the original PC Genjin artwork, rather then the lame US artwork that was on the Hucard version.

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2007, 04:08:28 AM »
One cool thing about the cd version, is that the manual features the original PC Genjin artwork, rather then the lame US artwork that was on the Hucard version.

Really? You like the Japanese version better?

For the Bonk games, I've actually always preferred the USA artwork... Especially in the case of Bonk 3.

But I guess I'm partial to lots of the USA covers.

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2007, 04:20:56 AM »
One cool thing about the cd version, is that the manual features the original PC Genjin artwork, rather then the lame US artwork that was on the Hucard version.

Really? You like the Japanese version better?

For the Bonk games, I've actually always preferred the USA artwork... Especially in the case of Bonk 3.

But I guess I'm partial to lots of the USA covers.

I never made the distinction between countries of origin, but I like the SCD cover a bit better.  The HuCard looked a tad on the lame side.  Again, this has nothing to do with The Rising Sun vs Stars and Bars.

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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2007, 10:36:17 AM »
One cool thing about the cd version, is that the manual features the original PC Genjin artwork, rather then the lame US artwork that was on the Hucard version.

Really? You like the Japanese version better?

For the Bonk games, I've actually always preferred the USA artwork... Especially in the case of Bonk 3.

But I guess I'm partial to lots of the USA covers.
Me too, especially the first game. Bonk's Revenge cover actually looks more Japanese-ish though.
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Re: Bonk 3 Hu-card or Bonk 3 CD?
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2007, 06:31:42 PM »
I used to hate the way he was drawn in Japan, but, the more I saw of it, the more I grew to love it.  I think for Americanized versions of covers, I like Bonk's Revenge the best.