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Keranu

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More TG16 VC review bullshit
« on: June 23, 2007, 10:38:48 AM »
Check this out. Just more of the typical reviews from people who don't know jack about TG16 or older gaming in general. Some of my favorite highlites:

"Where it often fell flat was in the gameplay department, with its enormous and colourful sprites frequently used to mask shallow or downright dull gameplay. This is certainly the case with China Warrior, a beat-'em-up which features some of the largest sprites of its time as well as some of the worst fighting action you're ever likely to witness."

"1/10" - Review score for China Warrior, though I guess it's better than them giving it a 6/10 to make it look like the worst score. Either way, it deserves higher!

"Probably the fastest vertical shooter on the VC, Soldier Blade is as generic as they come - colour-coded weapon power-ups, hovering support pod, manga styling..."

"Admittedly, he does get to ride a skateboard as well, but while everything looks very jolly and chunky, there are only so many times you can throw a boomerang at unmoving snakes and snails before it all starts to merge into one generic splodge of fruit pick-ups and palm tree backdrops. "
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2007, 12:31:39 PM »
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By looking at the VC line-up, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the TurboGrafx-16 was home to mostly manic shoot-'em-ups and cartoon platformers in which prehistoric children threw things at naughty animals. It's not true, of course. The platform hosted some great sports games, some interesting RPGs and a pretty great version of Chase HQ.

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The platform hosted some great sports games, some interesting RPGs and a pretty great version of Chase HQ.

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The platform hosted some great sports games

Wait, what?

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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2007, 12:34:12 PM »
Keranu, I agree: China Warrior deserves more than 1/10. Goddam! My love for China Warrior is not shaken.
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2007, 12:44:53 PM »
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By looking at the VC line-up, you'd be forgiven for thinking that the TurboGrafx-16 was home to mostly manic shoot-'em-ups and cartoon platformers in which prehistoric children threw things at naughty animals. It's not true, of course. The platform hosted some great sports games, some interesting RPGs and a pretty great version of Chase HQ.

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The platform hosted some great sports games, some interesting RPGs and a pretty great version of Chase HQ.

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The platform hosted some great sports games

Wait, what?
Haha, yeah I got a kick out of that too. It's also funny had it said "some interesting RPGs" and then mentioned Chase HQ. They totally know next to nothing about the Turbo :D .
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2007, 06:19:25 PM »
I have a sneaking suspicion that this tool has never touched a TG-16 and the VC is his first exposure to the 8 bit fury.  If China Warrior rates 1/10, then how is the "half-baked" SNES port of Final Fight worth 6/10?  I do like his comment about Battle Lode Runner though - "If Dig Dug got tipsy and had an illicit evening with Bomberman, Battle Lode Runner is what the eventual mewling child would look like."
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2007, 06:30:16 PM »
You know I once linked to a Penny Arcade strip that said basically the same thing, and you guys pretty much flamed me out for it, and yet here you go again, eh?

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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2007, 12:26:58 AM »
I have a sneaking suspicion that this tool has never touched a TG-16 and the VC is his first exposure to the 8 bit fury.

And this matters how? The only thing I could think of is that they lack nostalgic feelings for it, which ought to give them a more objective look at these games. In reviews like these, I'd trust these guys over hardcore PCE fans. Fans tend to be very forgiving and automatically like everything in their area, even though it is bad.

Example: Most Ys fans refuse to understand that Ys Origin is crap.
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2007, 09:34:08 AM »
I certainly wouldn't trust these guys about the TG16 considering that they think sport games were one of the stronger points of the console.
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2007, 10:08:19 AM »
Who cares what they know of a game console (which is completely understandable, as it was never released in the UK, where these doods are from). What matters is their objective view on the games they review. What system they're is completely irrelevant.

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« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2007, 12:06:44 PM »
They're objective view is wacked though since a lot of things they said could be applied to old games in general and in that case it's not fair to judge today's gaming aspects to the games of the past. I could be an objective bastard and say all 2D games have downright crappy graphics since they aren't 3D.
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2007, 12:16:26 PM »
I could be an objective bastard and say 3D games suck because most 2D games are more challenging.

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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2007, 12:25:13 PM »
They're objective view is wacked though since a lot of things they said could be applied to old games in general and in that case it's not fair to judge today's gaming aspects to the games of the past. I could be an objective bastard and say all 2D games have downright crappy graphics since they aren't 3D.


http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=78334

They gave 7/10 to Mega Man on that exact same page. They obviously do not judge today's gaming aspects to the games of the past. And they're right too, the game is stiff and boring. Massive sprites like that really is a bad thing, it is now and it was then. It makes the game practically unplayable.

Looking at some other reviews, it seems they generally give rather good scores to these old games. Except China Warrior, because it sucks.

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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2007, 12:31:22 PM »
I could be an objective bastard and say that Zelda 3 is a poor game.

But then FM-77 would tell me that I'm a biased/irrational/foolish bastard, not an objective bastard. 

In other words, one man's "objective" viewpoint is subjective BS to another man, so why even bring the term up when discussing game quality? 
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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2007, 01:08:24 PM »
I could care less what some jerk on some site says about these games. If I like a game, I will play it. After all, your own opinion is what really matters because you are the one playing the games, not some web critic.

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Re: More TG16 VC review bullshit
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2007, 02:14:23 PM »
Looking at some other reviews, it seems they generally give rather good scores to these old games. Except China Warrior, because it sucks.

He's right-- looking through the few pages of reviews they have up, the TG-16 games (excluding China Warrior) seem to score on average higher than the NES, Megadrive and SNES offerings.

But the bottom line is, it's just one guy's opinion.