Could someone recommend a little-kid RPG for GUTS?

[Turbo D]

ya, it is ys 2

[esteban]

Forgive my faulty grey cells: was it Ys I or Ys II with the sewers that were drained to reveal another level of exploration? I have always loved that! Very, very kool! I'm sure some folks might have felt it was anti-climatic (as opposed to exploring a completely new level), but I loved how the "familiar" had become a brand new maze to navigate / solve ...

I'm pretty sure that was Ys II.  I remember thinking that the drained sewer was pretty damn cool and unexpected the first time I played it.

If so, then Ys II is certainly holding its own!

[runinruder]

Let's not forget that in addition to the sewer draining and the evil antics of Dalles and the awesome transforming-into-a-monster elements already mentioned, Ys II also featured the adorable Lilia, the beastly (but friendly and very cool) Keith Fact, the famous "YOU ANIMAL" line, the mystical scenes where you visit the priest statues, the nifty fire magic to add variety to combat (especially boss battles), and the insanely dramatic climax when the goddesses are engulfed in flames and Adol must face Darm as his sword begins to glow. 

Ys I had great music and Dark Fact.  Ys II had great music and all the other cool stuff. 

[Black Tiger]

Let's not forget that in addition to the sewer draining and the evil antics of Dalles and the awesome transforming-into-a-monster elements already mentioned, Ys II also featured the adorable Lilia, the beastly (but friendly and very cool) Keith Fact, the famous "YOU ANIMAL" line, the mystical scenes where you visit the priest statues, the nifty fire magic to add variety to combat (especially boss battles), and the insanely dramatic climax when the goddesses are engulfed in flames and Adol must face Darm as his sword begins to glow. 

Ys I had great music and Dark Fact.  Ys II had great music and all the other cool stuff. 

The cool stuff in Ys II is fine. I just don't consider some of the lesser fun dungeons part of it.

[Keranu]

Solomine Shrine kicked ass!

[GUTS]

Maybe I need to play through Ys II again, I forgot about turning into a monster, that was kinda cool.  But I take issue with runin saying the music was better in II, the Darm tower theme in Ys is one of the best video game music tracks ever written, up there with Mega Man 2 Wily's theme and the main world music from Dragon's Curse.

[runinruder]

Maybe I need to play through Ys II again, I forgot about turning into a monster, that was kinda cool.  But I take issue with runin saying the music was better in II, the Darm tower theme in Ys is one of the best video game music tracks ever written, up there with Mega Man 2 Wily's theme and the main world music from Dragon's Curse.

I didn't say "the music was better in II."  I said the final shrine has better music than Darm Tower.  The Darm Tower tune is definitely the one I like the least in the game.

Both I and II, as I've already said, have great music.  I don't mentally split the soundtrack up into two separate books; I consider it one fantastic whole.  That's how I view "Book I & II" as a game, in fact, but since we are comparing, I do think II has more cool stuff. 

[Black Tiger]

I can't help but split the games in my mind, since I played so much Ys SMS for years before finally getting the Turbo version.

Although the Darm Tower theme isn't one of my favs, if I remember correctly, I don't like the Darm area music too much either compared to the rest of the soundtrack(s).

[Keranu]

Darm Tower had awesome music, but I prefered the Solomine Shrine song more since it felt a lot more epic and fitted the scene better.

[esteban]

I can't help but split the games in my mind, since I played so much Ys SMS for years before finally getting the Turbo version.

Even though I played the SMS version, I still see TG-CD Ys I & II as a complete whole. In fact, I now see the SMS version as "incomplete"! I know it sounds funny, but Ys I & II is so awesome that I immediately felt that it was the "true" yardstick by which to measure everything else.

SUCH IS THE GREATNESS of our favorite game .

[Black Tiger]

To me, Ys I feels like a complete game that was designed as such from the beginning and Ys II feels tacked on, even though its still cool.

Ys II feels like .

[esteban]

To me, Ys I feels like a complete game that was designed as such from the beginning and Ys II feels tacked on, even though its still cool.

Ys II feels like Back to the Future II.

Hahahhahaha . Yeah, BthFII = 100% crap. What a stinker. But they really did a good job promoting / hyping it, because I gladly spent $$$$ to see it.

[nat]

Whoa, hold on a minute.

You guys love JJ & Jeff and hate Back to the Future II?

Now I know something is amiss. Are you guys impostors from Opposite World?

Back to the Future II is far and away the best entry in the series, hands down. III is by far the worst (you always know a series is done when it either goes Western or goes into outer space), and I is OK.

[esteban]

Whoa, hold on a minute.

You guys love JJ & Jeff and hate Back to the Future II?

Now I know something is amiss. Are you guys impostors from Opposite World?

Back to the Future II is far and away the best entry in the series, hands down. III is by far the worst (you always know a series is done when it either goes Western or goes into outer space), and I is OK.

BttF I = awesome, awesome. When it came out, it was "one hell of a ride."

BttF II = Lame, lame, lame. Even if I were to try to evaluate it on its own, it falls apart because it is devoid of fun, tension, compelling story, etc. etc. I had more fun wasting my money on Harry and the Hendersons (and that's saying something). I did enjoy BttF 2 more than Cool World (but this isn't saying much, is it?). After all these years, I'm still slightly annoyed I paid good money to see Cool World.

Hell, Short Circuit 2 did a better job than BttF 2.

BttF II, unfortunately, is on par with Speed 2: Cruise Control.

[nat]

Hell, Short Circuit 2 did a better job than BttF 2.

BttF II, unfortunately, is on par with Speed 2: Cruise Control.

 

Oh no you didn't.