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Michael Helgeson

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Re: Top 10 Turbo Games
« Reply #60 on: September 12, 2007, 08:37:02 AM »
which always had the slightly better graphics and we all know it. The Turbo had to rely on fun.

I guess if you had to compare the US market yea the Genesis had a better looking selection graphically. However if you don't just limit yourself to the US releases then the Pc-Engine comes out far ahead,esp with the cd titles,even when you trow the Sega/Mega Cd into the mix. The Pc-Engine ended up with better fighters,rpgs,shooters,and adventure titles,esp in the graphics department when Super Cd hit. The Sonic stuff was cutting edge looking in detail,but lacked the overall color quality and style/charm that something like Bonks Revenge and others had for instance provided visually. The Genesis could do the sprites,and the audio was great when handled right,but the color really lacked. It worked well enough,I guess thats what counts.

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Re: Top 10 Turbo Games
« Reply #61 on: September 12, 2007, 08:42:08 AM »

8. Bomberman 1


Really? Have you played the other installments?


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« Reply #62 on: September 12, 2007, 10:39:21 AM »
which always had the slightly better graphics and we all know it. The Turbo had to rely on fun.

I guess if you had to compare the US market yea the Genesis had a better looking selection graphically. However if you don't just limit yourself to the US releases then the Pc-Engine comes out far ahead,esp with the cd titles,even when you trow the Sega/Mega Cd into the mix.

I agree some of the Super/Arcade CD titles I have checked out are pretty impressive (Dracula, LOT..etc). They even manage to pull off some pretty impressive parallax. Still, these games are the exception on the turbo rather than the rule whereas even the cheesiest games on the genny have the parallax - which really gave the games a powerful look and feel. To me it's a huge advantage - probably should have posted this in another forum......
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Re: Top 10 Turbo Games
« Reply #63 on: September 12, 2007, 10:58:52 AM »
So you think the genesis has better grafx because of parallax?  PcEngine killed the Genesis and everyone knows it.

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Re: Top 10 Turbo Games
« Reply #64 on: September 12, 2007, 11:22:02 AM »
If parallax is the only important thing to you, then it's no surprise that you prefer the Genesis.  Looking at the whole pie though, there ain't much difference between the two systems (many Turbo games have parallax too).  Don't fixate on the one thing that the Genesis can do better than the Turbo and then toss out blanket statements about the Genny's superiority.  I could say the Turbo is better simply because it has superior color capabilities and larger sprites, but arguing specs is lame and pointless.
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« Reply #65 on: September 12, 2007, 11:56:46 AM »
So you think the genesis has better grafx because of parallax? 

umm....yes - parallax helps to give a game better graphics - there's no doubt about it.
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« Reply #66 on: September 12, 2007, 12:11:12 PM »
what about on alteredbeast? The PcEngine version is a direct port of the arcade and is cleaner than the genesis version. The genesis version does have a parallax though. Does that make it better to you? The genesis version can't even handle the body parts being thrown into the screen when you kill the zombies.

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« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2007, 12:12:17 PM »
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umm....yes - parallax helps to give a game better graphics - there's no doubt about it.

At first i didn't know where you were coming from because for me the duo has far better graphics than the genesis, i put art, detail and use of color before parallax but then i remembered a time that parallax scrolling was very important to me.
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Re: Top 10 Turbo Games
« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2007, 12:44:41 PM »
So you think the genesis has better grafx because of parallax? 

umm....yes - parallax helps to give a game better graphics - there's no doubt about it.
I don't necessarily agree with that. Generally parallax looks great and lively, but there are a few cases where I think parallax can make a game look worse. Those who've read my rants on the Thunder Force series understand that I did not like some of the multi-parallax layers used in TFIII and TFIV because I felt the edges were far too rough and just made the parallax look like scrolling blocks of junk, but that's just me. An example that most people would agree on however is the TGCD version of Ys III which had really choppy scrolling in which case static backgrounds would probably look better to most people.
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« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2007, 12:45:37 PM »
1) MotoRoader - there's just not much more fun than can be had than a 5 player session of moto roader. Games like this set the turbo apart from the Genesis - which always had the slightly better graphics and we all know it. The Turbo had to rely on fun.
YES! Multiplayer MotoRoader is the best! Same with Battle Royale! Seriously, people overlook those games so much!
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« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2007, 12:55:24 PM »
YES! Multiplayer MotoRoader is the best! Same with Battle Royale! Seriously, people overlook those games so much!

I hear ya on the Battle Royale!! The one player was kinda lame but with the turbo tap and 4 friends it was a riot (no pun intended).

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« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2007, 12:57:45 PM »
Yeah those games definitely need to be play with others because single player isn't nearly as fun! I don't know what it is, but there is true magic in those games on multiplayer that not many other multiplayer games seem to have.
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« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2007, 01:54:49 PM »
Altered Beast arcade lacked parallax also. The Genesis graphics were nice,but very reworked. Neither version does the arcade game justice completely,but I completely hate the arcades ending.

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« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2007, 06:10:53 AM »
what about on alteredbeast? The PcEngine version is a direct port of the arcade and is cleaner than the genesis version. The genesis version does have a parallax though. Does that make it better to you? The genesis version can't even handle the body parts being thrown into the screen when you kill the zombies.

Those are all good points. I guess my point is this - this first thing I noticed between the two versions is that the PC engine version did not have the parallax scrolling, right away you notice it - it affects every level. The other stuff you point out is valid, just not quite as noticeable in my book - nor does it detract as much from the graphics.

either way it's not a top 10 on either system so i'll shut up...
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Re: Top 10 Turbo Games
« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2007, 06:25:22 AM »
But his point was that they added the parallax specifically for the Genesis port.

The arcade original didn't have any parallax, which is what the Turbo version is ported from.

You'd only notice the Turbo version didn't have it if you'd never played the arcade and only played the Genesis.

It's hard to see how that "detracts" from the game when the original game didn't have it either.  :D