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Kitsunexus

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Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« on: September 01, 2007, 07:07:53 PM »
OK, I don't know how many people have played Dark Edge, but it's basically a fighter like Ballz or GBA Tekken.

It's a 2.5D fighter, it plays in 3D but uses sprites instead:

It's a lot more impressive when you're actually playing, but the forums frown on ROMs. :(

It runs on the Sega System 32 hardware, but this looks like a really simple engine. The game is only 8MB, so storage space isn't a concern.

Can PC-FX do something like this? It has scaling and rotation right? Of course the Dark Edge characters and universe suck, but you could put other characters, and maybe more sprites for smoother rotation, but the question remains, can PC-FX do this?

Kitsunexus

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2007, 07:18:10 PM »
I'm also basing my question on the game Team Innocent, that definitely uses scaling, but I don't know about rotation...

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2007, 11:57:27 PM »
I think it probably could.  The FX is one of the strangest consoles ever in my opinion.  So many odd abilities that were never really used.  Its true power will probably never be determined.   :cry:
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Kitsunexus

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 06:16:41 AM »
Well where is the homebrew community to do these things? Don't tell me that you can't get the console easily, on eBay you can find the PC-FX for $100 everyday, sometimes less.

And everybody and their dog can grab the development kit files and program for it, so why exactly do people favor the Dreamcast over this?

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 10:06:23 AM »
Well where is the homebrew community to do these things? Don't tell me that you can't get the console easily, on eBay you can find the PC-FX for $100 everyday, sometimes less.

And everybody and their dog can grab the development kit files and program for it, so why exactly do people favor the Dreamcast over this?

Um...because the Dreamcast doesn't suck. Also, people actually own Dreamcasts.

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 10:06:41 AM »
Haven't heard of this game before, looks kinda neat. I think the PC-FX could handle that with ease, but I'm not an expert.

There is a certain reason why there isn't any PC-FX development, but I can't really say exactly what it is; something with the dev tools. There is a lot of interest in PC-FX development by some PCE developers, so there is hope one day there will be some homemade stuff for it.
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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2007, 06:42:54 PM »
Haven't heard of this game before, looks kinda neat. I think the PC-FX could handle that with ease, but I'm not an expert.

The PC-FX would have no trouble with anything that appeared on the 32X.

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There is a certain reason why there isn't any PC-FX development, but I can't really say exactly what it is; something with the dev tools.

Yeah. The tools (and their documentation) are all in Japanese.

Plus there are very few people that actually own the console. I think I heard once there are only about 100,000 PC-FXs out there.

Kitsunexus

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2007, 07:09:31 PM »
Um...because the Dreamcast doesn't suck. Also, people actually own Dreamcasts.

Actually, Dreamcast sucks pretty hard, since it could never emulate a SNES with 100% speed, and both of mine DIED from the f*cking cheap power and maple boards refusing to work one day.

Haven't heard of this game before, looks kinda neat. I think the PC-FX could handle that with ease, but I'm not an expert.

The PC-FX would have no trouble with anything that appeared on the 32X.

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There is a certain reason why there isn't any PC-FX development, but I can't really say exactly what it is; something with the dev tools.

Yeah. The tools (and their documentation) are all in Japanese.

Plus there are very few people that actually own the console. I think I heard once there are only about 100,000 PC-FXs out there.

But YOU will be making stuff for this console, right?

EDIT: My bad, I get you and notveidt confused sometimes. :(
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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2007, 03:12:54 AM »
Um...because the Dreamcast doesn't suck. Also, people actually own Dreamcasts.

Actually, Dreamcast sucks pretty hard, since it could never emulate a SNES with 100% speed,


Um....what? That's just a silly thing to say.

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2007, 06:21:59 AM »
Um...because the Dreamcast doesn't suck. Also, people actually own Dreamcasts.

Actually, Dreamcast sucks pretty hard, since it could never emulate a SNES with 100% speed,


Um....what? That's just a silly thing to say.

LOL, dipshit much?


When I got my DC (both of them) the big thing I wanted was to play SNES on my TV with all my ROMs as perfect as I could get. Unfortunately at that time, SNES was not 100% on the DC. It pisses me off. At least Unreal Tournament ruled (although not as much as the PC version).

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 06:32:51 AM »
Although I haven't tried it lately, I've heard SNES emulation is basically perfect on the Dreamcast now.

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 06:53:19 AM »
I needed a DC for 2 things:

1. SNES emulator
2. Porn viewer


#2 has been taken care of because my family gave me the old computer to put into my room, but it's still too slow to run a lot of ROMs in ZSNES. So I might need to get me another DC...

SignOfZeta

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2007, 11:48:09 AM »
What you need is a computer. SNES emulation has been almost perfect for years on Windows, and virtually as well on Linux, or OSX.

I'm pretty sure SNES emulation still sucks on DC, although I gave up paying attention since it lagged for so long.

Either way, I think you are some kind of...like...gigantic a$$hole, or something. A DC is for playing DC games. The emulation is just a cool side track. It emulates Neo Geo CD pretty f*cking well, and even AES better than I ever thought possible. SMS is fantastic as well, 2600, etc etc.

The DC is one of the best systems ever, regardless of whether or not you manage to jack off to it as much as you want to.

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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2007, 12:01:25 PM »
Personally I think the SNES emulators for Windows suck too.

NesterDC is one of the best emulators out there though! So much fun playing NES on DC.
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Re: Can the system do a fighting game like Dark Edge?
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 01:09:10 PM »
Personally I think the SNES emulators for Windows suck too.

I test a SNES emulator by loading Yoshi's Island and seeing if the sound is perfect. Every emulator has failed this test, so they are all just "OK", IMO.
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NesterDC is one of the best emulators out there though! So much fun playing NES on DC.

I actually prefer IMBNES for PS, even though it isn't any good, because I love playing it on my PSOne w/ LCD. NESter DC is very very good though.