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LEO EL INCOMPARABLE

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My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« on: September 06, 2007, 11:09:09 AM »
My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin. when a press start nothing happens. but if a open the cd player and move the lens motor or unplug and plug again all the cables, then works perfect for the day. If i try to play the next day, i have to do all over again the same process to play.  please someone help me 1!!
« Last Edit: September 06, 2007, 11:12:08 AM by LEONARDO EL INCOMPARABLE »

nat

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2007, 11:39:45 AM »
Your drive is old. This is not an uncommon issue.

If you feel adventurous, you can open the drive up and lubricate all the moving components. That should eliminate the problem.

SignOfZeta

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2007, 11:42:57 AM »
Are you playing CD-Rs?

LEO EL INCOMPARABLE

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2007, 12:49:37 PM »
thatk's nat, i will try to lubricate the system. the sad thing is i bought this system brand new 4 yeras ago in tzd.com so it's so anoying that new system give me this problem.  But maybe it's dry inside and he need lubrication, thaks for the tip. i will doit and i let you know thr result's.  Leo

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 12:53:12 PM »
yes signofzeta, i have only 2 cdr games: cotton & dragon knight III.  maybe the cdr's have something to do with the problem, but i'm no longer playing this copied games in the old system just in case.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2007, 03:29:22 PM »
Well there is a problem that happens with CD-Rs where the laser will park itself beyond its range of travel, requiring you to wind the laser back more towards the center. This only happened to me once since I don't play CD-Rs very often, but I've heard of it happening to others so I though I'd ask.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2007, 10:29:03 AM »
This is the exact same problem I am having with my TG16 CD unit.  What do I lubricate inside and what do I lubricate it with?  I dont want to use the wrong type of lubricant or get it where it does not belong.  I have not looked for screws either - is there anything special I should be wary of when trying to open the unit?

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2007, 03:12:49 PM »
Hey guys,
I've been doing some pretty involved research on this subject (my oldest TG-CD  has had this problem since early 2001...and now my newer one is starting to flake out too!). Here's what I can tell you:

Despite what I initially thought, both motors are OK. I took them out of the assembly and applied power, and both spun quite freely.
I applied a bit of red "Mystery Grease" I stole from work (seriously...I think it's Aeroshell #65 or some nonsense) to the poly gears that drive the laser, as well as to the guide bar that the laser itself travels on.

Then, just for the hell of it, I reapplied power to the motor (while installed). It drove the laser for about a second, and then stopped dead.

Upon closer examination, I discovered that the source of the stoppage was a spot on one of the drive gears where two teeth had broken off. It was just sort of "bound up" like that.

I began turning the drive gears by hand, and in doing so I stripped EVERY TOOTH off of the busted gear. All the other gears were fine.

I reassembled the TG-CD completely, and put in an audio CD and pressed "Play". This time, I could hear the laser motor turning speedily along, with nothing to mesh with.


I'd say given the fact that we all have TG-CD's and are all having the same symptom, it's pretty likely that you also have one or two busted teeth on your drive gear.

Now, what's the solution?

-I don't think lubing would do an immense amount of good, but if you use a PROPER LUBE for plastic/poly it certainly couldn't do any harm (I add this emphasis because I suspect the red grease may have helped make the gear even more brittle).

-I have been looking for a mechanical fix for the TG-CD. I don't know how to go about replacing just the one stripped gear (they all seem mounted to the shafts pretty securely...how would I reattach them without slippage?), so my solutions all tend to gravitate toward:[ul][li]finding a SCSI-based NEC CD-ROM drive from the same general era and gutting it[/li][li]buying a PC-Engine CD on schnebay and harvesting just the CD/laser motor assembly[/li][li]finding somekind of generic "CD player rebuild kit" online...I don't hold out much hope, though. [/li][/ul]
Honestly, I'd always rather use NEC parts for a project like this, and for the relatively low price for a PC Engine CD-ROM unit ($50-60 last time I checked) and the little labor involved, I think I'm gonna go with the second choice.

But, as I've said in my other thread, I'll keep y'all updated on my progress. Just bear in mind that the Chrastmas shopping season is all up ons, so I can't be spending as much time and money on this as I'd like.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2007, 03:54:34 PM »
It's too bad you didn't have this problem four years ago.

I had a black CD-ROM^2 with a blown out laser I ended up selling on eBay for $10 to someone who thought he could fix it. I definitely would've donated it to your cause.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2007, 04:59:31 AM »
Honestly, I'd always rather use NEC parts for a project like this, and for the relatively low price for a PC Engine CD-ROM unit ($50-60 last time I checked) and the little labor involved, I think I'm gonna go with the second choice.

If you know where to buy the units - especially at those prices, I am all ears.  I cant find a shop that repairs these at all anymore (they charged $60 to REPAIR them when they did so!), and the only units I find for sale are on eBay as part of the total units for several hundred.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2007, 05:59:07 AM »
Then you're getting ripped off.

A complete TG-CD console (core, CD-ROM, interface, controller, Sys 2 card) should run you in the $100 ballpark.

A CD-ROM alone should be much, much less.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2007, 06:24:32 AM »
can you show any pics of this cog and the surrounding gears? im good at finding parts. should be a regular sony cd assembly.
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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2007, 10:50:31 AM »
Hey Chop5! I got some photos for you, just moments ago.

In the picture below you can see three different gears (they're all reddish because of the grease...). The middle gear used to have a larger diameter gear on the same shaft that meshed with the bottom gear.

The second picture is the closest match to what the gear used to look like. I stole the image from some plastic gear company.
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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2007, 12:32:57 PM »
Then you're getting ripped off.

A complete TG-CD console (core, CD-ROM, interface, controller, Sys 2 card) should run you in the $100 ballpark.

A CD-ROM alone should be much, much less.

Places / websites / whatever where you see those prices please.

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Re: My turbo grafx original cd player doesn't spin.
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2007, 12:44:45 PM »
Prices like those will sometimes appear on eBay, but most sellers would rather gouge than be fair.

Beyond that, keep an eye on for sale forum here. Also, subscribe to the Turbo List.

I just sold a TG-CD player for $115 shipped, and that's only because it was going international. Domestic would've been around $100.

Never try to use eBay as a value guide for American TurboGrafx stuff.