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ParanoiaDragon

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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #375 on: January 19, 2009, 07:16:46 PM »
Both the SNES & FM Towns versions should've been better then what they were.  As I said, I'm torn on the underground levels, I love the paralax in the Amiga & other versions, but, I do really like the animation added to the BG in the Turbo version, but, still wish there was paralax.  I hate the background for the fortress level of the Amiga version, & think that the Turbo version is very appropriate.  I love the clouds in the Genesis version I think the most though.  The hiss is in the first underground area, it's like they turned a mic on, & didn't bother to re-record.  It looks like the FM Towns version was also released by Victor Musical, so, it's no wonder it has the same music.  Also, I should note, that the gfx in the FM Towns version, look like the gfx shown for the Turbo version in one of the Turbo/Duo Play's, where the gfx look almost cartoony with a lack of detail.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #376 on: January 19, 2009, 07:19:25 PM »
Something I just noticed on Mike Daily's site, there is a game listed called Paradroid.  The was a game for the Turbo, that was being worked on(atleast, according to EGM) called Paradroid!  I wonder if there's any connection??
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #377 on: January 19, 2009, 07:33:22 PM »
Quote from: Joe Redifer on January 19, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
I am disappointed that the FM Towns version STOLE the music from the PCE version.  This angers me.  I am going to write my congressman about this! 

that's because, for both version tim wright was responsible. and he didn't want to re-compose it just for the lumpy towns version.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #378 on: January 20, 2009, 02:09:16 AM »
I loved Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga.  I also loved SotB on the PC-Engine.  I still think the Amiga is the superior version.  I just remember buying the amiga version when it came out and just being blown away by the sound and graphics.  It really was something special to me.  Hard to imagine 3 guys made the game.  Also I thought David Whittaker did the music for beast1 and Tim did 2 and 3?
It's also crazy just two guys programmed and did the graphics for the original.  That's how it was back then.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #379 on: January 20, 2009, 02:35:44 AM »
Quote from: geise on January 20, 2009, 02:09:16 AM
Also I thought David Whittaker did the music for beast1 and Tim did 2 and 3?

very right so for the amiga versions. but for the pce & marty versions, tim took his hands on it. dunno for the md & sfc versions. anyway, he made a superior job on the pce version. listen to its score sheer weekly, since years now  :D
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #380 on: January 20, 2009, 02:55:45 AM »
Haha derf =B  I totally forgot that David Whittaker mainly did the original beast score, and Tim redid the music for the PC-E and Marty versions.  Regardless I miss Psygnosis, and buying the games that came with Roger Dean designed shirts.  The amiga, ST, and PC-Engine gave me many good gaming memories.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #381 on: January 20, 2009, 03:14:16 AM »
Quote from: Tatsujin on January 19, 2009, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: Joe Redifer on January 19, 2009, 06:50:55 PM
I am disappointed that the FM Towns version STOLE the music from the PCE version.  This angers me.  I am going to write my congressman about this! 

that's because, for both version tim wright was responsible. and he didn't want to re-compose it just for the lumpy towns version.

The FM-Towns version was first, probably released late in 1991. Then they recycled Tim's soundtrack for the PC-Engine CD port, released in March 1992.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #382 on: January 20, 2009, 03:18:14 AM »
It's a good soundtrack Tim did so I don't mind the port of the music.  If both games were coming out so close to eachother why bother redoing the music.  It's like changing the music from a ps3 game to port it to the 360.  Doesn't really make sense.  Especially when it's the same game.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #383 on: January 20, 2009, 04:58:28 AM »
Why hasn't this Tim guy done any music anywhere even close to the quality of Shadow of the Beast since then?
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #384 on: January 20, 2009, 04:58:48 AM »
Could someone link to Mike Daily's site? I'd like to read some of the content there. Thanks.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #385 on: January 20, 2009, 05:15:07 AM »
Quote from: spenoza on January 20, 2009, 04:58:48 AM
Could someone link to Mike Daily's site? I'd like to read some of the content there. Thanks.


Follow the link from Tom's post and you'll eventually arrive at www.mikedailly.com.  :wink:
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #386 on: January 20, 2009, 05:31:40 AM »
Quote from: Joe Redifer on January 20, 2009, 04:58:28 AM
Why hasn't this Tim guy done any music anywhere even close to the quality of Shadow of the Beast since then?


I like his title tune for Agony (Amiga). A really nice piano track.
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #387 on: January 20, 2009, 10:48:48 AM »
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the amiga version is far superior. and since this is a thread about graphics, don't bother me with gameplay etc. issues.

No doubt, the amiga version has the best graphics.

There are some parts that are nice in snes version, but over all i think its poor, i also don't think it had a commercial release.


Below are some shots of the pce and genesis versions.
                     
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Joe Redifer

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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #388 on: January 20, 2009, 12:33:48 PM »
I find it interesting that the US and Japanese Genesis versions are graphically different. Audibly too, I think.

Anyone have comparison shots of those?  Or should I do it?  ;)
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Re: Graphics: Turbo vs. Genesis - ye old debate
« Reply #389 on: January 20, 2009, 01:25:54 PM »
you should do it! ;)
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