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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #15 on: December 28, 2007, 11:32:11 AM »
Thanks folks, I think I got 'er working now; and just for nat, I loaded up Deep Blue.  It's still the worst TG-16 shmup.
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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2007, 11:55:05 AM »
So If someone has the CD-Attachment can you try the Super CD-Rom System card 3 .pce and tell me if it boots your Super CD's?

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« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2007, 11:58:10 AM »
So If someone has the CD-Attachment can you try the Super CD-Rom System card 3 .pce and tell me if it boots your Super CD's?

The system cards have ram in them that I'm sure the neo flash cart lacks. it would not work.
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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2007, 11:58:28 AM »
OK, so how did you all get the actual driver for the USB Slim Loader loaded up into Windows? What a f*cking chore.

I've wasted an hour and a half on this but finally got it working.

This is what I had to do:

a) Allow Windows New Hardware Wizard to identify the "USB PACK".
b) Choose "Install from my own driver/location."
c) Go into the directory "USB_Driv\DD03_-_S" on the CD.
d) Choose XGSSlim.inf
e) Now Windows is looking for SlimLoaderV4.sys, which doesn't exist anywhere on the CD.
f) On a hunch, copy off SlimLoad.sys and rename it SlimLoaderV4.sys
g) Run through the whole process again, this time pointing to my newly renamed driver.

This was after screwing around with the "NEO Power PC-E V1.0.exe" for 45 minutes and not getting anything but "Connection fault".

Could they have made it ANY HARDER to get the Slim Loader driver off the disc? Someone who doesn't know anything about how Windows works would probably have found it impossible and given up. God this is why I f*cking hate Windows. But it's also partly the "Neo" team's fault for not writing their driver .INF file correctly. The program "UPDATE_U.EXE" does absolutely nothing, BTW.

For Mac users out there, this setup works perfectly on a Mac if you can figure out how to actually install the driver. The only catch is you're going to need a copy of XP installed either in a virtual environment (Parallels) or in a separate partition (Boot Camp) to run the flash software. I have XP under Parallels and it works great.

A couple of notes about the package in general:

1. What's with these dinky little CDs? My everyday 2GHz Mac has a slot-loading DVD+RW drive so I can't insert this disc into it. It just disappears into the slot and doesn't do anything. I had to use a paperclip to pry it back out. Then, I had to go boot up the ol' PowerMac 6300 (which has a tray CD-ROM) and copy the contents of the CD over my LAN to the new Mac. After I removed the little piece of crap disc, a huge chunk of the reflective foil just ripped off in my hand! I couldn't believe it. Talk about cheap. Luckily I got the files off in time. I can at least burn them to some real media now. Did they really save that much by putting the support files on these tiny discs? I've never even seen these for sale anywhere. It almost seems like you'd spend more time and money seeking out these small CD-Rs than if you just used crappy regular media that comes pennies a piece. Jeez.

2. Does anyone else's setup not look new? The back of my flash cart has lots of those scratches HuCards get after being inserted and removed a zillion times from systems. It even has a 1/2" dirty smudge on it. It was the first thing I noticed when I took it out of the package.

3. What the hell is with this reset button? Talk about a bad idea. After loading up the cart and testing the first ROM on the SuperGrafx I went to hit the reset button to go back to the main menu. When my finger was closing in about a half inch away, a spark jumped from my hand to the metal casing around the button! Or maybe it was the other way around, I will never know for sure. Either way, I thought my cart was fried. Luckily it is not. But believe me, that is the last time I will attempt to use that button. What a joke.

Beyond that, I guess I can't complain. The software does it's job once you get it installed. The cart works perfectly as it should. I will undoubtedly get a lot of use out of it in the future. But what an episode.

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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2007, 12:17:24 PM »
So If someone has the CD-Attachment can you try the Super CD-Rom System card 3 .pce and tell me if it boots your Super CD's?

The system cards have ram in them that I'm sure the neo flash cart lacks. it would not work.

I've got a System 3 card on the way but I thought it was interesting that the System 2 bios worked fine.  Guess that one doesn't have any RAM in it.


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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2007, 12:17:58 PM »
So If someone has the CD-Attachment can you try the Super CD-Rom System card 3 .pce and tell me if it boots your Super CD's?

The system cards have ram in them that I'm sure the neo flash cart lacks. it would not work.

I've got a System 3 card on the way but I thought it was interesting that the System 2 bios worked fine.  Guess that one doesn't have any RAM in it.



System 1, 2 will work fine.

System 3 & Arcade will not work because they have additional RAM chips.

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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2007, 12:22:19 PM »
Quote from: nat
OK, so how did you all get the actual driver for the USB Slim Loader loaded up into Windows? What a f*cking chore.

In my win2k I selected the CDROM for the driver with the windows automatic install and it found the right driver and installed it right away.  It's good you got yours though :)
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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #22 on: December 28, 2007, 12:24:45 PM »
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OK, so how did you all get the actual driver for the USB Slim Loader loaded up into Windows? What a f*cking chore.

In my win2k I selected the CDROM for the driver with the windows automatic install and it found the right driver and installed it right away.  It's good you got yours though :)

Ah, OK. I guess the fact that I couldn't load the CD up directly on this computer made it more difficult. I copied the contents of the CD into a folder over the LAN.

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« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2007, 12:26:11 PM »
So I had it on the computer and had a handful of ROMs to load up.  Tried just Tongueman's Logic, wrote to the card fine.

Then I try a list of ROMs.  Got an error during the load, some typical address issue thing you get with Windows (I'm a Mac guy, this is my work computer).  So I try again.  Now it doesn't see the cart and I get "Faulted to Open BIOS!" errors when trying to write to the card.

Jesus H. Christ.
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« Reply #24 on: December 28, 2007, 12:35:00 PM »
Found that the cart was fine but the program was screwed up.  Deleted it, ran directly from the CD and it seems to work now.
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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #25 on: December 28, 2007, 05:13:13 PM »
OK, so how did you all get the actual driver for the USB Slim Loader loaded up into Windows? What a f*cking chore.

Windows automatically installed my Slim Loader just fine, and SlimLoaderV4.sys is on the disc under X:\USB_Driver\DD03 - Slim loader 4.

1. What's with these dinky little CDs?

I have no problem with them using a mini CD-R, as most drives are capable of playing them (Apple is just about the only company that uses slot loading drives that can't handle minis).  If they want to look professional, then they should spend a couple extra pennies and buy quality media with silk screened labels - mini or full size.

2. Does anyone else's setup not look new? The back of my flash cart has lots of those scratches HuCards get after being inserted and removed a zillion times from systems. It even has a 1/2" dirty smudge on it. It was the first thing I noticed when I took it out of the package.

Your wear sounds excessive to me, but they supposedly test drive each flash cart before shipping.  Mine came preloaded with 1941, but for some reason it didn't work.  :roll:

3. What the hell is with this reset button? Talk about a bad idea.

It's to keep you from having to turn your system on and off repeatedly, and it wouldn't be necessary if the cheap bums at NEC had included a proper reset button.  Quit shuffling your feet on the carpet or ground yourself before touching your precious Duo.  :lol:

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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #26 on: December 28, 2007, 06:17:58 PM »
2. Does anyone else's setup not look new? The back of my flash cart has lots of those scratches HuCards get after being inserted and removed a zillion times from systems. It even has a 1/2" dirty smudge on it. It was the first thing I noticed when I took it out of the package.

Your wear sounds excessive to me, but they supposedly test drive each flash cart before shipping.  Mine came preloaded with 1941, but for some reason it didn't work.  :roll:

I took some 409 to the back of the cart and it looks almost brand new now. Most of the "scratches" were apparently just dirt tracks. Are they testing these carts in a mine or something?

3. What the hell is with this reset button? Talk about a bad idea.

It's to keep you from having to turn your system on and off repeatedly, and it wouldn't be necessary if the cheap bums at NEC had included a proper reset button.  Quit shuffling your feet on the carpet or ground yourself before touching your precious Duo.  :lol:

Yeah, I know what the point of them is. I was being somewhat facetious in that rant. Really, my point is that they should have made the button casing plastic instead of metal. That metal is attached straight to the PCB. They are just begging for trouble.
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« Reply #27 on: December 28, 2007, 07:44:01 PM »
Glad to hear you guys all got your flash carts working.  Are any of you using a region modded Duo by any chance, and your flash cart works?  For the life of me I can't get the cart to work with a region modded Duo-R I bought from D-Lite, but it works just fine with my stock Turbografx.  Has anyone had any similar problems?


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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #28 on: December 28, 2007, 08:57:16 PM »
I had the same kind of problems when I had mine, 2 years ago.
When you install/plug the freeloader, make sure that the cart is not inserted. Once the program and the loader are installed, you can insert your cart as you please.
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Re: Neo Flash Cart for Dummies - Help!
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2007, 03:45:40 AM »
Glad to hear you guys all got your flash carts working.  Are any of you using a region modded Duo by any chance, and your flash cart works?  For the life of me I can't get the cart to work with a region modded Duo-R I bought from D-Lite, but it works just fine with my stock Turbografx.  Has anyone had any similar problems?
I've been testing the flash cart with various setups and I've found that it's buggy with the region mod, at least in TG burn mode.  On either a DuoR set to US (pin #29 grounded) or a TG16 set to US (no pin #29 mod).  And I've tried both with the PCB based region mod, which is switched electronically, and the 8PDT, which is hardware switched, and both have issues running some games.  Magical Chase runs mostly OK, but the sound is distorted, kinda slow sounding.  I'm going to try again, running in PCE mode today.  There's

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