I f*ckING HATE SONY! >_<

[Joe Redifer]

My Sega Rally disc on the origional XBOX also is like this where my origional disc often hangs and crashes during loading, but off a DVD-R it never crashes.

I have never seen the word "original" so badly mangled multiple times.  Anyway, Sega Rally was never released on the Xbox.

[MissaFX]

My Sega Rally disc on the origional XBOX also is like this where my origional disc often hangs and crashes during loading, but off a DVD-R it never crashes.

I have never seen the word "original" so badly mangled multiple times.  Anyway, Sega Rally was never released on the Xbox.

Sega GT something then?  It is on a disc with Jet Set Radio something or other.

Oh and I cannot spell to save my life, it is one thing I claim I absolutely cannot do.

[Kitsunexus]

You know what? I really loved my PSP version of Sega Classics Collection, and for some reason, it just stopped working a couple of months back, no visible scratches or anything, the UMD is where it's supposed to be, every other game I own works fine. 

I am getting a MAJORLY bad vibe from Sony. 

[Joe Redifer]

Hmmmm... maybe it has something to do with you or your living environment.  I've never heard of PSP games ceasing to work.

[Necromancer]

As for XBOX vs PS2 the XBOX wins hands down for graphics, controllers, XBOX Live and - most importantly - for the fact that you can mod your XBOX with XBOX Media Centre. XBMC is amazing and I don't know how I lived without it.

Agreed.  It's too bad that MS quit making the original XBOX and games, as they'd sell nicely as cheap alternatives to the 360 (much like the PS2 is to the PS3).  Hell, even I'd buy one if I could get it brand new as cheap as a PS2.

My only guess the presses are a bit weak and the backup has strengthened sectors which it can read more easly?

They're likely poorly mastered rather than improperly stamped; ripping the iso and reburning probably fixed a few errors.

[Sinistron]

LOL anyone remember that 1990 movie "Crazy People"?  Sony...  Bony.

[MissaFX]

My only guess the presses are a bit weak and the backup has strengthened sectors which it can read more easly?

They're likely poorly mastered rather than improperly stamped; ripping the iso and reburning probably fixed a few errors.

Are you sure?  I know for a fact that nickle heads are often required to stamp more discs than the head is rated for, often in a later pressing because they do not want to go through the process of making new nickle heads.  I have multiple CDs I have acquired over the years which I am pretty sure are all badly pressed.  If they were badly mastered they the company who produced them should be drug out into the street and shot.  The mastering is such a by hand process done by professionals I expect quality.

[Kitsunexus]

The mastering is such a by hand process done by professionals I expect quality.

I thought it was more of a factory "crazy stamping machines with playing in the background" assembly line kind of thing...

[Necromancer]

Are you sure?

Not really, but I doubt that any PC-FX games were made in large enough quantities to actually wear out a nickel father.

[MissaFX]

Are you sure?

Not really, but I doubt that any PC-FX games were made in large enough quantities to actually wear out a nickel father.

As a joke I'll agree with you.  I know for example one Sony makes is only rated to stamp 5000 discs, but they often use it for 10,000.  Some of the PC-FX games already seem to be on cheap media with uneaven foil on the top, I wouldn't put it past the people who made them if they were using the heads for far more than 10,000 presses due to the companies wanted to release the games on the cheap.

[TR0N]

Hmm that sucks kit either the laser isn't postion right or it's some thing.

I just have the old fatty ps2 and it works fine still.

Then again...i never did played it to death though since for the last gen i play my,gc more.

"Kind of sad realy though" it took two consoles befor sony got it right with the PS3.

Still the consumer is screwed on that as well with to many damn models.