Author Topic: The Goal: System Card 4.0  (Read 2777 times)

MissaFX

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2008, 10:24:01 AM »
The biggest question on my mind is:  Will you be able to get a really good artist to do the label for this card?  I'd love to see one of those lables which is plastic and you turn the card back and forth to see it animate :twisted:
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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2008, 11:05:46 AM »
that would be bad ass. It could be a hologram like my pokemon cards  :)

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« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2008, 12:39:38 PM »
One possible feature instantly comes to mind: No Turbo/PCE games up to this point have ever been more than one disk. I was wondering if there was any way to implement this as is. If not, this would be a great feature for your new system card!
No game has ever been more than one disc because no game has ever required more than one disc. Multi-disc games are very possible; in fact, I've already done some experimenting with disc swapping techniques as proof-of-concept. It's just that there's never been a need, and I would imagine that back-in-the-day, since discs were expensive enough to produce, there was likewise no desire to make a game that required multiple discs. Times have changed...

Missa: We'd probably be able to convince Black Tiger to do the artwork for it, hehe. :D His artwork is fabulous, and I'm sure he'd enjoy the opportunity.

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2008, 01:16:19 PM »
Does the HuCard slot even have a "sound in" pin?  From what malducci (I think) was saying, you can really only add RAM via the card slot.  It can't be used to upgrade the video or audio in any way. 

Would this be made to work with Jap or US machines?

Also I am considering moving this thread to the development forum unless I hear any convincing arguments against (and they had better come soon).

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #34 on: January 31, 2008, 01:42:28 PM »
Also I am considering moving this thread to the development forum unless I hear any convincing arguments against (and they had better come soon).

Someone already moved it! Is that a good argument?

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #35 on: January 31, 2008, 01:47:21 PM »
I'm moving it back to the old forum and then back here just so I can say I moved it!

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« Reply #36 on: January 31, 2008, 02:12:54 PM »
Does the HuCard slot even have a "sound in" pin?  From what malducci (I think) was saying, you can really only add RAM via the card slot.  It can't be used to upgrade the video or audio in any way.
The hucard slot has an "audio in" line, but it's monaural and I'm not exactly sure where it enters the system (mixed in with the ADPCM circuit maybe?). It lacks any kind of video lines though.

Would this be made to work with Jap or US machines?
It could probably be made to work with both.

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #37 on: January 31, 2008, 05:55:02 PM »
I like the title of this thread.  :D

...best topic evar...
Agreed!

I support this idea and think it's really neat. However as BigT said, I hope this doesn't take away from the spirit of the Turbo/PCE.
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Adding PCE console specific layer on top of that, makes for an interesting challenge (no, not a reference to Ys II).

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2008, 06:20:00 PM »
Thank you, Old Rover, Thank you! My day started out great, recently took a slight turn for the worst, and now, reading this topic has made it better than ever! I would definitely support this in any way I can! (Which at the moment limits me to moral support but hey, you never know!)

One possible feature instantly comes to mind: No Turbo/PCE games up to this point have ever been more than one disk. I was wondering if there was any way to implement this as is. If not, this would be a great feature for your new system card!

*Returns to bouncing off the walls in excitement!* :dance:

Nod/Rover probably forgot, but, we do have a game that Lord Cack & I have come up with, that will probably require more then 1 disc.  But, this game is pretty far away from completion, seeing as how we haven't even released Mysterious Song yet, & we're seeing how long these projects can take.


The main thing I would like to see, is more ram or whatever to load stuff in a level, so levels can be longer, feature more paralax, more enemies(rather then just 1 or 2, with some color swap's)etc.  Basically, you have a Hucard, which can load anything, anytime, but the Super CD, can only load 2mb's, & then to load anything beyond that requires more disc access.  The Arcade card doesn't rememdy this, I forget how it works, people keep explaining it to me, & it never sinks in.  The Sega CD, IIRC has 6mb's to tool around with.  I would just love 6, 8, etc. mb's to for us to play with, to do more in a level or whatever.  Get my drift?

All these other things sound great as well though.  But, more then the standard 2mb's is the main thing I want.  I want to eliminate that limit. :D

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2008, 06:32:40 PM »
The biggest question on my mind is:  Will you be able to get a really good artist to do the label for this card?  I'd love to see one of those lables which is plastic and you turn the card back and forth to see it animate :twisted:

that would be bad ass. It could be a hologram like my pokemon cards  :)

Thirding the lenticular label art.

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #40 on: January 31, 2008, 06:57:57 PM »
I don't get why, if you guys want to do something like this, don't you just program for a more powerful system that already HAS these features?  It seems completely preposterous that not only are you going to design and manufacture a System Card 4.0, but also manage to sell more than the 4 or 5 to people on this board.  Especially when you consider that import adapters for the Turbo sell for so much money, yet no one has designed (or hell just ripped off existing designs) and manufactured a new batch in like 15 years, so the logical conclusion is that it just isn't possible or cost effective to manufacture something that will fit in the hucard slot anymore.

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #41 on: January 31, 2008, 07:03:06 PM »
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Especially when you consider that import adapters for the Turbo sell for so much money, yet no one has designed (or hell just ripped off existing designs) and manufactured a new batch in like 15 years, so the logical conclusion is that it just isn't possible or cost effective to manufacture something that will fit in the hucard slot anymore.

I'm willing to pay a good deal of money for one as long as it has features like built in bank, the fact it has the arcade hardware as well adds a good amount of value.  If it opens up cheaper or more available homebrew I am all for it.  I figure a lot of junk hucards could be collected.  The pin part and the main body of the card could be re-used and a new PCB would be attached to the pins.  It might need a bubble back part of the card, but that could be manufactured or an existing part could be purchased that could be easly modified to fit.
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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #42 on: January 31, 2008, 07:14:18 PM »
I don't get why, if you guys want to do something like this, don't you just program for a more powerful system that already HAS these features?  It seems completely preposterous that not only are you going to design and manufacture a System Card 4.0, but also manage to sell more than the 4 or 5 to people on this board.  Especially when you consider that import adapters for the Turbo sell for so much money, yet no one has designed (or hell just ripped off existing designs) and manufactured a new batch in like 15 years, so the logical conclusion is that it just isn't possible or cost effective to manufacture something that will fit in the hucard slot anymore.

I will buy one, and I don't even have a Turbo.

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #43 on: January 31, 2008, 08:37:16 PM »
I was thinking, maybe, if this gets made, it should be included with whatever particular game is the first to utilize it.  However, even that, I don't know if that would work.  But, it would force people to buy one particular game(Neutopia 3) to play other future games...  Just an idea.

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Re: The Goal: System Card 4.0
« Reply #44 on: January 31, 2008, 08:39:58 PM »
I was thinking, maybe, if this gets made, it should be included with whatever particular game is the first to utilize it.  However, even that, I don't know if that would work.  But, it would force people to buy one particular game(Neutopia 3) to play other future games...  Just an idea.

Maybe it could come with a unique digital coupon code to get a discount on a future homebrew game which supports it.
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