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guyjin

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Best & worst ACDs
« on: February 05, 2008, 08:58:43 AM »
So I finally have that arcade card. Sapphire is great; If it's the only game I play with the AC, it's worth it.

However, to make my Arcade card even more awesome, I'd like to know what the best (and worst) ACD games are.

To get it started:
The other ACD I own is Fire pro female wrestling. From what I've seen of the Fire Pro games, they are very technical, and not button mashers, and this one is no different. I can't figure out how to do even basic throws. Also, outside of the wrestling itself, the game is very text-menu heavy. It took me a while just to figure out how to go one-on-one against the computer with a pregen character. The graphics are simple, but attractive, and after the long initial loading screen, there really isn't any loading at all.

A two-player mode exists, but I have yet to try it. There also seems to be a tag team mode. The game seems to have a wrestler creation mode, which appeals to me, but until I learn Japanese, there is no hope that I can create one.

in short, this might be fun if you speak the language (and aren't squicked by female wrestling - some of whom seem to be playing the part of men) but the typical pcenginefx user should avoid this.
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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2008, 09:05:06 AM »
As a soon-to-be owner of an Arcade Card I'm also curious to see the opinions of the best and worst.


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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2008, 11:13:39 AM »
If its like the other fire pro wrestling games, you have to time the button press to exactly when your wrestlers hands touch the other guy.  So you run up, hit the grapple button, wait a second for the animation, then hit a direction and either tap or hold the grab button as soon as your wrestler reaches out and touches the other guy.  Great fun, makes for some awesome 2-player battles since its all about timing and not just who ever grabbed first like most other wrestling games.

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 11:20:38 AM »
I've never played that version of FP but when the Saturn version came out I didn't have very much Japanese knowledge and I didn't have much trouble with the edit mode. Choosing the AI stuff can be hard, but just designing the wrestler and picking the moves isn't very hard. Its complex and easy to get lost in, but it would be in English too.

Like I said though, I've never played that version and the fact that it even has edit mode is kind of surprising since I thought all that stuff started on Saturn. The early FP games on PCE were total garbage.

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 11:27:34 AM »
said with ease:

Best: Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (10AAA+++)

Worst: It is said that it is shared by Battlefield Wrestling '94 or Fire Pro Female Wrestling
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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 11:48:57 AM »
Best (imho) was Fatal Fury Special & Strider. These were the first 2 ACD game I played and they're awesome.

Worst? Hmmm...probably Mad Stalker.

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 11:54:15 AM »
what's so worse about mad stalker? or different said, what makes it more worse than one of those shitty wrestlers, which could've almost be done on a 2mBit Hucard (regardless to music issues)?

o'coz, it isn't that a great game, but neither it's really bad.
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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2008, 11:55:10 AM »
The neo-geo ports are better than what you will find on the snes and genesis/sega cd, i was most impressed with world heroes 2 and fatal fury special.

Kabuki Itouryodan has good music, some of the backgrounds are very nice, and as far as i can tell, the best animation for a fighting game on the system.

Mad stalker: i think this game is damn good but a lot of people will disagree, this game has huge sprites moving at blazing speeds and screen filling explosions, it has great sound effects to go along with the action. The gameplay is single plane brawler like ninja warriors for the snes, it also has a versus mode.

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2008, 12:31:34 PM »
The greatest is of course Kabuki Itouryoden, followed by Fatal Fury Special and World Heroes 2.

Sapphire is a good game, but not nearly as fantastic as its generally made out to be, nor as good as many non uber rare PCE shooters.

If bicompatibles count, then Popful Mail is one of the very best as an actual game, plus it has very nice aesthetics all round. If you're not a fighting fan, then I'd rate Popful Mail the best by far.
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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2008, 12:47:17 PM »
Sapphire is a good game, but not nearly as fantastic as its generally made out to be, nor as good as many non uber rare PCE shooters.

as we talking here about ACD games only, sapphire is keeping up the unbeaten best of all them. what makes people think of other games could battle against sapphire, with just having a itsy bitsy of chance?


The greatest is of course Kabuki Itouryoden, followed by Fatal Fury Special and World Heroes 2.

so you like beat'em ups? but let me say, that world heros isn't a good one in this category of this genre. doesn't matter if on the neo geo or PCE. but great port though.
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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2008, 12:50:08 PM »
What does Popful Mail add when played with the ACD card?

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2008, 12:56:22 PM »
Sapphire might be a little overhyped, but it really is a rock-solid game overall and certainly worthy of much of the praise it gets.

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2008, 01:02:46 PM »
Sapphire might be a little overhyped, but it really is a rock-solid game overall and certainly worthy of much of the praise it gets.

now that statement sounds just fair. plus, it uses the hardware to its absolute uber max. and the music just rox to no end, which shouldn't be unconsidered.
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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2008, 01:14:53 PM »
I think sapphire is very good vert scrolling shooter, not as good as spriggan or nexzr though, sapphire is of course more famous for being a technical showpiece than for its gameplay but what a showpiece, for example the Egypt boss transforms into a giant mecha type thing then he starts spinning on his axis while rotating around the screen with incredible animation at the same time huge orbs feel the screen, i don't remember any slow down or flicker...HOLY HELL, let me repeat... HOLY HELL.

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Re: Best & worst ACDs
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2008, 01:16:04 PM »
Such feats are amazingly simple when you have such a huge memory pool to utilize. Of course, that doesn't change the fact that they look awesome. :D