The Light Gray "TurboGrafx System."

[awack]

Nobody who owned a Turbo had any friends, hence the need for only one controller port.

HA:D,thats because we had a inferiority complex and had no friends, we would never whip ours out because we were told that our CPU was only half the size of other consoles and that it could never satisfy the needs of a real gamer.

Black tiger, that smokey grey euro turbo grafx looks really good, i think it looks much better than the halloween collord turbo grafx 16.

[ceti alpha]

Nobody who owned a Turbo had any friends, hence the need for only one controller port.

haha. That's because we were afraid, or puzzled rather,  by all of those gamers running around with "Genesis Does" written in their eyes and screaming "Sega!". It was frightening and made no sense to us, therefore, we stuck to ourselves until the myth of blast processing faded and the state humanity returned to normal.

[nodtveidt]

Actually guys n gals, having a single port which is expandable through a single device is more efficient than having two ports. The multitaps other consoles had required very specialized programming to make use of, but since the PCE/TG16 was designed to work this way from the very beginning, it was far easier to make use of.

[Black Tiger]

I planned on consulting the experts before plugging it in to test, since the voltage is different.

All you would need to do is check the input voltage of the console itself. This probably shouldn't be any different than the US model, since the circuitry inside is virtually identical. Obviously you can't use the EU adapter with it if you're in the US, but you should be able to use the US adapter. I'm not 100% sure on this though, so again, check the voltage requirements for the console itself.

This is one of the first things I did, since I'm able to play my PAL Megadrive with North American Genesis power supplies.

It turns out that both the input and output on the AC adaptors is different. The console itself only lists the output.

Here are the specs of each AC adaptor:


PAL TurboGrafx:

Input: 220VAC 50Hz
Output: 10.5VDC 780mA


NTSC TurboGrafx-16:

Input: 120VAC 60Hz 15W
Output: 10.5VDC 730mA

[Game and Watch Kirby]

I got my TurboGrafx-16 with Bonk inside the box in 1991.

Hm. After all, I have not heard much about the advertising for it in 1991. This may also be related to the same ordeal that you had included stickers with yours. Since that is the year Bonk's Revenge was released, are you positive it was Bonk's Adventure, or was it the sequel instead?

Nobody who owned a Turbo had any friends, hence the need for only one controller port.

Haha. That's because we were afraid, or puzzled rather,  by all of those gamers running around with "Genesis Does" written in their eyes and screaming "Sega!". It was frightening and made no sense to us, therefore, we stuck to ourselves until the myth of blast processing faded and the state of humanity returned to normal.

A couple of individuals I know on YouTube, who are LaiSteve66 and BoilerPlate, told me that nobody was really talking about the TurboGrafx-16 around its release; it was all about the Sega Genesis and later the Super Nintendo. Also, having a TurboGrafx-16 would be the possible cause of a "social isolation" since a person would not fit the "herd mentality."

With the amount of scary games (to my past experiences, at least ), and sometimes scary advertisements (which are more relevant to the Sega Saturn), the Sega Genesis was somthing to be feared of. It was one evil console, indeed .

I planned on consulting the experts before plugging it in to test, since the voltage is different.

All you would need to do is check the input voltage of the console itself. This probably shouldn't be any different than the US model, since the circuitry inside is virtually identical. Obviously you can't use the EU adapter with it if you're in the US, but you should be able to use the US adapter. I'm not 100% sure on this though, so again, check the voltage requirements for the console itself.

This is one of the first things I did, since I'm able to play my PAL Megadrive with North American Genesis power supplies.

It turns out that both the input and output on the AC adaptors is different. The console itself only lists the output.

Here are the specs of each AC adaptor:


PAL TurboGrafx:

Input: 220VAC 50Hz
Output: 10.5VDC 780mA


NTSC TurboGrafx-16:

Input: 120VAC 60Hz 15W
Output: 10.5VDC 730mA

For the most part, it looks like the European TurboGrafx has more power useage, although it doesn't do so as quickly. It interesting to see how the PAL electrical currents work and compare to the NTSC ones.

[nat]

Black Tiger, I think you'd be fine to use the US AC adapter on the PAL TurboGrafx. The US TG-16 adapter works great with the white Japanese cores as well.

A difference of 50mA isn't going to change anything.

[nodtveidt]

The output of the adapter is what the console expects. The US adapter may not have enough power though. 50mA can be a considerable difference in output. It all depends on whether or not the console actually uses all that amperage. That extra 50mA may be required for the signal conversion circuitry. Try it...if it doesn't work, then it's not enough power.

[nat]

That's true, I forgot about that goofy NTSC->PAL converter.

Still, I say it'll be fine. The worst that'll happen is that you'll have no picture using the US adapter. You can't harm the console though.

[Black Tiger]

That's true, I forgot about that goofy NTSC->PAL converter.

Still, I say it'll be fine. The worst that'll happen is that you'll have no picture using the US adapter. You can't harm the console though.

Alright then, I'll blame you if it goes up in smoke.


EDIT: I dug out the main PAL TG unit and a standard PCE A/V cable and when I tried to plug it in... it didn't fit. Instead of forcing it at all, I compared the male and female ends and it was too close to call, although they looked a little off.

So I went and grabbed the accessory box and compared the PAL A/V cable and it was clearer that they are indeed different (but still similar). I also tried a TG-16 "halloween" Turbo Pad and it fit fine.

So I finally got it hooked up with the TG-16 ac adaptor, hit the switch and... it worked! But not only did it power on and run on my HD LCD, it runs smooth without the stuttery frame rate that NTSC Turbo/PCE systems cause on this TV.

So far the only game I've tried is JJ & Jeff and the sound seems as though it may be a little different(I haven't played it in a while). This TV has simulated surround sound though, so that may be all it is.

Now I'm going to try a few more Turbochips and a PCE HuCard just for the hell of it.


EDIT AGAIN: The games are cropped to a wider perspective. The rest of the screen is black, and some of the off-screen bg/foreground building pieces can be seen in Aeroblasters(I'll need pics to explain properly). The image appears to look less distorted than this TV makes other retro/240p consoles look.


The following games seemed to run fine at full speed:

JJ & Jeff
Magical Chase
Dragon's Curse


These games ran slow, sound and all:

Aeroblasters
Bonk 3
Ninja Spirit

Bloody Wolf didn't work at all, but I only tried it 3 or 4 times. It just produced a white screen the same as a PCE HuCard.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to a decent video camera at the moment. Once I do, I'll hook the PAL TG back up and do some comparison videos.

[Keranu]

More reasons why JJ and Jeff is a well made game  .

[nat]

That's true, I forgot about that goofy NTSC->PAL converter.

Still, I say it'll be fine. The worst that'll happen is that you'll have no picture using the US adapter. You can't harm the console though.

So I finally got it hooked up with the TG-16 ac adaptor, hit the switch and... it worked!

Told you so. 

[Game and Watch Kirby]

That's true, I forgot about that goofy NTSC->PAL converter.

Still, I say it'll be fine. The worst that'll happen is that you'll have no picture using the US adapter. You can't harm the console though.

Alright then, I'll blame you if it goes up in smoke.


EDIT: I dug out the main PAL TG unit and a standard PCE A/V cable and when I tried to plug it in... it didn't fit. Instead of forcing it at all, I compared the male and female ends and it was too close to call, although they looked a little off.

So I went and grabbed the accessory box and compared the PAL A/V cable and it was clearer that they are indeed different (but still similar). I also tried a TG-16 "halloween" Turbo Pad and it fit fine.

So I finally got it hooked up with the TG-16 ac adaptor, hit the switch and... it worked! But not only did it power on and run on my HD LCD, it runs smooth without the stuttery frame rate that NTSC Turbo/PCE systems cause on this TV.

So far the only game I've tried is JJ & Jeff and the sound seems as though it may be a little different(I haven't played it in a while). This TV has simulated surround sound though, so that may be all it is.

Now I'm going to try a few more Turbochips and a PCE HuCard just for the hell of it.


EDIT AGAIN: The games are cropped to a wider perspective. The rest of the screen is black, and some of the off-screen bg/foreground building pieces can be seen in Aeroblasters(I'll need pics to explain properly). The image appears to look less distorted than this TV makes other retro/240p consoles look.


The following games seemed to run fine at full speed:

JJ & Jeff
Magical Chase
Dragon's Curse


These games ran slow, sound and all:

Aeroblasters
Bonk 3
Ninja Spirit

Bloody Wolf didn't work at all, but I only tried it 3 or 4 times. It just produced a white screen the same as a PCE HuCard.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to a decent video camera at the moment. Once I do, I'll hook the PAL TG back up and do some comparison videos.

"Male and female" ends? That's "polarized and neutral (non-polarized)", not "male and female", Black Tiger .

It is a common problem for PAL consoles to have slowdowns when running on 50Hz (there is the possiblity to switch to 60Hz for these systems). This is more prevalent in earlier-made ones.

[Turbo D]

the connector that looks like a weiner is male. The hole connecter is female. Just like in real life.

[Joe Redifer]

Hm. After all, I have not heard much about the advertising for it in 1991. This may also be related to the same ordeal that you had included stickers with yours. Since that is the year Bonk's Revenge was released, are you positive it was Bonk's Adventure, or was it the sequel instead?

Here is a picture of my TG-16 box:



I never owned Bonk's Revenge until I purchased the Super System Card which came with it on the Gate of Thunder CD.  The stickers came with the CD unit I believe.

PS - Black Tiger, I think your HDTV accepts a PAL signal.  Just a guess on my part.

[Keranu]

Oh yes, the totally happy Turbo Grafx dude strikes back!