Top ten PCE/Turbo RPG's (CD or HU)...

[Bonknuts]

(c) rpg...classic??

 Computer RPG. Either western or european style.

[nat]

What about Fighter RPGs? Like Flash Hiders?

[Necromancer]

Computer RPG. Either western or european style.

Like with cowboys and indians? 

What about Fighter RPGs? Like Flash Hiders?

I'd say that they're fighting games with some RPG elements, since fighting is 90% of the game.

[Joe Redifer]

What about those card-based RPGs like Phantasy Star Online 3 or whatever it was?

[nectarsis]

Card based RPG derivative??

[rag-time4]

Computer RPG. Either western or european style.

Like with cowboys and indians? 

Don't get me started on Westerns!! I would love to see an RPG that was a true Western!

I still need to get LaPlace no Ma!

[GUTS]

Western RPGs are awesome, as much as I love Final Fantasy I think I prefer western style RPGs.  We got Might & Magic III and Order of the Griffon though, those two rock super hard (not counting Dungeon Master since they f*cked it up so badly).  I wish someone would have ported Eye of the Beholder II or any number of computer RPGs to the Duo instead of stuff like Shadow of the Beast & Loom (even though I like both of those).

[nat]

Loom was awesome, but they should have left that on the PC. At least they could've upgraded the graphics for the Duo version beyond EGA (they didn't).

[Joe Redifer]

So what about all of those people who say Shenmue isn't an RPG, even though it clearly is?

[Keranu]

A lot of RPGs have MUTE characters.  Ys, for instance.

Adol has a line or two during the cinema between Book I and Book II.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't. The only line I can remember from Adol in Ys Book I & II was when he was disquised as a monster at Solomon's Shrine in Ys II and told the guard the secret passcode to get in. He was quite the chitter chatter (compared to other Ys games) in Ys III, but he got quiet again in Dawn of Ys (I think like two lines).

In Ys I & II, there is dialogue text for Adol in the scene where Lilia finds him at the beginning of Ys II. But I think that Adol's dialogue and the couple of lines from Alex in Lunar Sega-CD were added to the english versions.

Oh yeah, that's right. I think Adol says "Where am I?" and "Right. Lets go." during that part. To be honest though, I never considered that to be a cinema between Ys I and II, but a cinema limited to just Ys II myself.

[nodtveidt]

So what about all of those people who say Shenmue isn't an RPG, even though it clearly is?

I don't really know much about Shenmue, but from reading the Wikipedia entry, it looks very much like an RPG.

Oh guys...about Ys II...there's another part where Adol speaks...when he's turned into a goon and finds the runaway's hideout. "Wait a second, I am a man. I was turned into a goon by the wizard" or something along those lines.