TOP TEN CDROM STINKERS SURVEY

[Necromancer]

I'm not harsh, I just know a stinker when I play one.

Fair enough, but why such disdain for Super Air Zonk?

[nodtveidt]

Fair enough, but why such disdain for Super Air Zonk?

I think it has to do with momentum. The original Air Zonk was an innovator; it brought a whole mess of unique concepts to shmups. But by the time its sequel was introduced, these concepts had become largely stale, and many of the experimental ideas from Air Zonk that actually WORKED were removed...leaving behind an overall lackluster game. Momentum killed, product suffered greatly. Super Air Zonk is just boring, especially compared to its prequel.

[Necromancer]

That's solid reasoning, when compared to the Air Zonk.  It's still fun for me, but it definitely lost a lot of the original's magic (and parallax  ).

[rag-time4]

The only CD game in my collection that really sucks is Legion. Alright, and as much of a fan of Street Fighter 1 as I am, Fighting Street sucks too... the button timing is just... ahhhhh

[turbofan1]

Alright here`s my top ten worst cd games-

1.Sherlock Holmes The Consulting Detective vol.1 TG-CD
2.Ys III TG-CD
3.Jim Power In Mutant Planet Pc Engine-SCD
4.Horror Story Pc Engine-SCD
5.Dragon Slayer The Legend Of Heroes TG-SCD
6.Ys I&II TG-CD
7.Super Air Zonk TG-SCD
8.Renny Blaster Pc Engine-SCD
9.Bonk III TG-SCD
10.Image Fight II Pc Engine-SCD

[Sinistron]

  Sherlock Holmes- now that one really is a toilet snake! 

[nodtveidt]

Hrm...didn't expect to see Image Fight II make anyone's list, but at least I'm not the only one who didn't like Ys III.

[esteban]

Goddam Nod, Monster Lair is an absolutely killer game. Of course, if you don't have fun with the game, I can see why you wouldn't want to play it. But it isn't a STINKER! It does everything right (except for the the pre-boss segments being a tad too long and repetitious).

Man, I love Monster Lair.

I always love reading your thoughts, though, because you've offered interesting explanations for most things.

I'd put FINAL ZONE II on the STINKER list because that game should have been at least 1/20th as fun as Final Alert / Red Alert.

[Joe Redifer]

Final Zone 2 did more to piss me off than to entertain me, though I did finally beat it and suddenly it became very easy.  I guess I didn't like it enough to keep it, because I no longer have it.

[Sinistron]

I beat final zone II back in the day- but since I no longer own it can't list it on pcedaiusuken (yeah I always mangle that site's name) as "cleared".   
is it really that bad?  It's been a while...
I must say though - some of these top ten lists are completely absurd- imo.  I get kicks out of absurdity though so don't consider me a complainer! 

[Beld VanGuard]

I beat final zone II back in the day- but since I no longer own it can't list it on pcedaiusuken (yeah I always mangle that site's name) as "cleared".   
is it really that bad?  It's been a while...
I must say though - some of these top ten lists are completely absurd- imo.  I get kicks out of absurdity though so don't consider me a complainer! 

For some random fresh views on Final Zone II, I just recently got the game from ebay (got it yesterday). I bought it purely based on the funny voice acting, and that I liked Commando, and it looked like Commando with Mecha-suits. Now, not counting the cut scenes, which are horrid, don't help the story one bit, but are endlessly entertaining....the game breaks down like this.

Pros
+Decent graphics
+Very fast moving character
+Multiple Character Choices
+Fast action

Now the problem is...

Cons

-Game is amazingly incredibly short (I beat it in 2 hours, only 7 lvls?)
-1 random horrid space shooter level
-Forced to play 2 characters several times and only getting 2 chances to play (imo) the 2 best characters
-NO SHOOTING WHILE MOVING, WTF
-Infuriating "explosive damage" mechanics
-Restrictive level designs
-Very easy once you get used to it
-NO MULTIPLAYER

The few things the game does right, it shoots itself in the god damn foot on. Multiple characters that are (mostly) very different? Hell yes. Too bad were pigeon holed into playing the main character or his wife (who are almost the same) most of the game, and since the game is SO bloody short, there isn't even a chance to correct this. The action is nice and fast, but not being able to run and shoot takes away from the "Commando" experience. I have NEVER played a game of this style that forced me to shoot and move, it wasn't strategic, it was aggravating. Especially considering how many of the other level and enemy unit mechanics play out, particuarily some of the mini-boss routines, it hobbles your character, and thus fun factor, greatly. Plus in the short 7 levels, I can name several times where the game suddenly restricted where I could walk (again, mostly boss battles) forcing me to play a certain way not condusive to feel of the game (or sane strategy)

Again, voice acting/cutscenes aside, this is a game with a ton of potential that did everything it could to cut it's own nuts off, or cripple it's few original fun ideas. The game needed 12-24 levels, maybe a password feature if the levels remained as long as they are. It needed full access to all the characters, co-op mode, shooting while moving, more boss variety, and no random restrictions on your movement capabilities.

I'm not mad I bought it, I got it pretty cheap...but I wouldn't have paid what I did had I known. Final Zone II gets a 4/10, I had fun, but I had to fight for it, and when I finally won my fun, the game was long over.

Ya that can be in the top 10 worst CD's, if for nothing else, the missed opportunities.

Whew...rant over lol

[Mobius]

Haha... I have 10 CD games, and 6 of them have shown up on these lists so far.  I dunno if Valis III really belongs on the list of worst games, though.  It's an awfully generic action game, but it's not bad.

[Joe Redifer]

Beld VanGuard, you forgot to list the bitch getting her face slapped in the "Pro" column. 

[spenoza]

You know, thanks to emulation most of us have probably played enough HuCard games to have a feel for what sucks and what doesn't, but, and I can only speak for myself here, I haven't played many of the crappy CD games. I've largely just avoided them altogether. It's just too much work to play the stinkers. That means I really can't meaningfully contribute to a list. And worst is always harder than best, because so few people go out of their way to play crap games.

[Beld VanGuard]

Beld VanGuard, you forgot to list the bitch getting her face slapped in the "Pro" column. 

Rofl, as I said, I left the cutscene info out.

However, yes, that scene was gold. I was sitting there with 2 friends, and I had just said "man I hope he just slaps the hell out of her, too bad they don't do that kinda stuff in...WHOA HAHAHHA"