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[rag-time4]

I picked Lords of Thunder, but Gate of Thunder was oh so tempting with its threesome of extra games.

my first answer would be "entire library"  but if I had to vote for the one best reason to get a Duo  I wuuuuld say Gate of Thunder (especially on the CD with the 2 Bonk games).

Don't forget about Bomberman, or you'll make him cry.

And you'll also make me cry.

I don't feel it's right for me to vote because I've only played a handful of these games and I really love them all.

Of the ones I've played, I might just have to agree with runinruder's top 2.

I want to play Camp California... i'll probably like it since i like the beach boys.

[nat]

Camp California is a killer game.

[Joe Redifer]

 The TurboGrafx can't do "loud" sounds.  They are all very soft and quiet.

 Tell that to my poor bleeding ears after doing sound coding/testing 

Like hell it can't.

If you increase the volume high enough on even the quietest of sounds, it will seem loud.  That is probably what happens to Malducci.  He adjusts the volume knob to compensate for the near-inexistent volume of the PC Engine.  He becomes sad, or rather his ears do.  To display their sadness to Malducci, they decide to bleed.

It would be a fun test to hook up a bunch of systems to a recorder, manually set the recording level to a certain point and record various sounds from many different game systems (chip only, no redbook sounds).  I bet the PC Engine would average a lower volume than most other systems.

[Michael Helgeson]

Its weird how I'm the only one who voted for Forgotten Worlds...... I figured,hey,there has to be at least 2 others out there loving the game the same as I,but no,its just me out here,all alone. At least I didn't vote Sim Earth. Id rather be a cool loner then a bored loner.

[spenoza]

Lower source volume can be a good thing. If a system outputs relatively loud it may be using poor amps. If you have any kind of home theater or stereo system you want your source volume to be low so you can let your fine quality audio equipment do the amplifying.

Take CDs, for example. Louder CDs tend to be lower quality because they are clipped and compressed. They'll sound fine in your car or as MP3s on your iPod, but in a nice stereo system they will not sound as good as a quieter, more dynamic recording that relies on your stereo to do the amping.

The LoT soundtrack is an anomaly. It's a quiet soundtrack that ALSO compresses the audio. That's just dumb.

[Necromancer]

Camp California is a killer game.

Indeed, though it's unfortunate that it lacks a save feature.

He probably means that it can be loud without sounding like crap...which is true from what I've seen.

Think of a pair of $10 ear buds playing 64kbs MP3s through a 5 watt amp; loud for sure, but also ear piercingly shrill and shitty.

Did you mean to say "it can't be loud without sounding like crap"?  If not, I'm lost.


P.S. - Joe, inexistent is an inexistent word. 

[malducci]

It would be a fun test to hook up a bunch of systems to a recorder, manually set the recording level to a certain point and record various sounds from many different game systems (chip only, no redbook sounds).  I bet the PC Engine would average a lower volume than most other systems.

 I remember some members stating that the sound for PCM on the Duo units is lower than the TG16 units. But yeah, in relation to CD unit audio and ADPCM highest amplitude, it could be lower.

 Some games pair PCM channels to double the sound volume for an instrument or effect, but that's usually to make it stand out over other PCM channels current playing.

[Joe Redifer]

Take CDs, for example. Louder CDs tend to be lower quality because they are clipped and compressed. They'll sound fine in your car or as MP3s on your iPod, but in a nice stereo system they will not sound as good as a quieter, more dynamic recording that relies on your stereo to do the amping.

I agree completely, however you don't want the recording volume too low otherwise that raises the noise floor.  Just low enough so the loudest sounds don't clip.  Commercial music CDs recorded over the last 10-15 years or so have been awful.

Joe, inexistent is an inexistent word.

'Fraid it is, Sparky!

[spenoza]

I agree completely, however you don't want the recording volume too low otherwise that raises the noise floor.  Just low enough so the loudest sounds don't clip.  Commercial music CDs recorded over the last 10-15 years or so have been awful.

Yes, it does raise the noise floor. But if you are responsible with your recording conditions and equipment and already have a pretty low noise floor I'm not sure how much I'd worry about it. I've ripped tracks from PCE CD games before and they are, volume-wise, comparable to many CDs from the late 80s and very early 90s, which is just dandy with me.