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Lochlan

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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #30 on: October 16, 2008, 06:11:51 PM »
I don't know about that.  I certainly recognize that other people are capable of enjoying games I don't like, but my point, essentially, is that the system has so few fighting games and even fewer decent ones, that a list of "the best" PCE fighters is misguided.  (IMO it would be like making a list of the best Gamecube RPGs or something--what's the point?)

So you were just thread crapping, eh?  If this thread is such a waste of your valuable time, then why are you here?  Did ninjas break into your house and force you to type at sai point?  :lol:

Don't pat yourself on the back too hard there champ.

(Ninjas!?  How droll!)

I was offering up what I thought was a worthy discussion point, I'm sorry to see that you're so shortsighted as to see it only as "thread crapping".  I never claimed that it was a waste of MY time to discuss the subject, simply that the OP's intended direction for the thread was a little misguided.  But your one-liners sure are zippy, right?

Whatever.

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Now that I think about it, given your comment about not having to play the best of a given genre, I think the point of contention here is really that I dismissed a game as mediocre that this forum has insularly cannonized (namely, Asuka).

I'm sure Michael Helgeson would have loved for this thread to be nothing more than "omg herez my list guyz!  These games r my faves!! LOL", but I thought the topic deserved a more critical response (call it trolling if you must, but that's a pretty limited viewpoint IMO).

Anyway, Jesus Christ, I rarely find myself having to work so hard to justify my reasons for writing something; this thread has taken a turn for the bizarre (in no small part by the anti-NG rantings of a certain crazy person here).
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #31 on: October 16, 2008, 09:58:35 PM »
I was offering up what I thought was a worthy discussion point, I'm sorry to see that you're so shortsighted as to see it only as "thread crapping".  I never claimed that it was a waste of MY time to discuss the subject, simply that the OP's intended direction for the thread was a little misguided.  But your one-liners sure are zippy, right?

Maybe you should reexamine your delivery method for what it was you considered a "worthy discussion point" along with its actual content.

Stating there was no point to the thread is basically the same as stating its a waste of time, specifically your time. Your kinda flip flopping here now, just like in your initial post here, are you not (which I will get to in a bit)? Which is it you mean exactly? If there is no point to the threads existence to you, then there's no point in you posting in it either, correct, as you would be contributing to more time wasting pointlessness? Or is it that you only consider your post the ones worthy of time or existence here? Seriously, don't you have anything better to do? You are pretty persistent about checking up on and replying a thread that technically wouldn't even concern you considering you stated:
If we're claiming that terrible games are good fighters because the TG/PCE doesn't have any good ones, then where's the love for Konami's Martial Champion??

What I gather from this itself may even mean you don't consider the system to have any good fighters at all. But like I said above I would get to, it contradicts with:
Street Fighter 2 and a couple of the SNK ports are the only good fighting games,
even though you did make sure to add there were better versions elsewhere to play...

And how again exactly is the thread mis-guided by asking what everyone's favorite PCE, TG fighters are? There was quite a few fighters released, good or bad, and this is a Turbografx/PCE themed forum, or did you not notice??? And as I said before, many here mainly or solely play the Turbo or PCE and not much of anything else... The point of the thread was to get opinions from the people who play the system to get them to list their favs. Listing their not so favorite ones, just as well, sure, who cares, as it makes a good cross reference. Neither are what you did exactly however.

 What you did was jab a insult in stating some of the games everyone seems to be playing suck (are you insinuating its solely up to you to decide what is good or bad on the PCE) and you cant fathom why they would like them, and what titles you even would consider are ok are ones you would never play anyway since you are too good for those ports, as they are done better elsewhere. What you could simply have done was stated the obvious, you don't like any of the PCE fighters, in a polite post, if you really felt the need to even do so, and been done with it and gone on with your life. You could have left out the attitude and insulting manner as it wasn't needed for sure.

I'm sure Michael Helgeson would have loved for this thread to be nothing more than "omg herez my list guyz!  These games r my faves!! LOL", but I thought the topic deserved a more critical response
I did not start this thread, so I had no desire for peoples post to go one way or the next other then to stay on topic, which it was until you decided you had to grace the little people with your highly regarded opinion of them, and the games they enjoy playing. The very comment you make of:
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omg herez my list guyz!  These games r my faves!! LOL
reflects more so your low opinion of us and how we and our opinions we express appear to you it seems. No one here, myself included, talk like that. If you actually took the time to talk to us in a positive manner and do more then shit rude post out you would see that.

(call it trolling if you must, but that's a pretty limited viewpoint IMO).
Trolling is exactly what you have been doing, although ever so poorly. And as far as viewpoints are concerned, you already made it clear plenty prior you consider ours to be either pointless or limited if they don't agree with you.

Anyway, Jesus Christ, I rarely find myself having to work so hard to justify my reasons for writing something
Then why bother here? You already stated the thread was a pointless waste. Its clear to all of us here you feel you are wasting your time. Have you just hit rock bottom in the forum world and cant find anywhere else to go, or is it that no one else will have you're highly regarded opinion maybe???

this thread has taken a turn for the bizarre (in no small part by the anti-NG rantings of a certain crazy person here).
Well, its sad considering you brought over that very NG.com elitist behavior I spoke of to begin with. Then again, you get to a certain point and simply cant just blame a site for how some one acts, so maybe it simply boils down to you having a shitty anti social personality? Regardless, its obvious it bothers you that I hit so close to home, and no, that does not make me crazy, simply insightful and willing to tell you like it is, even if it hurts your feelings. If the best you have to offer up at the end is a "that persons crazy" insult then you have officially fizzled out.
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #32 on: October 16, 2008, 11:49:43 PM »
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2008, 02:15:00 AM »
1) This is most certainly a pce/tg board in a pce/tg forum.  Complaining that there's better versions on other consoles is moot.

2) Mike's right- there are some people here who love the pce/tg enough that it's the only system they play- I'm one of them.  Makes this thread a good read.

3) Though there are not as many fighters for pce as there are other systems- there is certainly an adequate enough number to post a thread about.

4) If the OP wanted to make a thread about macaroni and cheese- that'd be his f*cking right as long as it was in the right forum.

5) People who complain about threads that they don't feel are warranted- yet waste their energy in posting in said threads regardless come off as sad maroons who obviously have nothing better to do with their time.

6) Since Lochlan first came here he's sounded like a hissy little jerkoff- an instant upstart crying for his Zwieback teething toast.

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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2008, 03:53:47 AM »
Don't pat yourself on the back too hard there champ.

(Ninjas!?  How droll!)

I was offering up what I thought was a worthy discussion point, I'm sorry to see that you're so shortsighted as to see it only as "thread crapping".  I never claimed that it was a waste of MY time to discuss the subject, simply that the OP's intended direction for the thread was a little misguided.  But your one-liners sure are zippy, right?

Whatever.

What was I thinking?  Levity is for suckers.

Now that I think about it, given your comment about not having to play the best of a given genre, I think the point of contention here is really that I dismissed a game as mediocre that this forum has insularly cannonized (namely, Asuka).

Wrong.  TRON, WoodyXP, Keranu, and Mithos all stated that they only like Street Fighter II' (and Fatal Fury Special in Keranu's case), essentially dismissing all other PCE/Turbo fighters as mediocre.  Had you left the last sentence off of your first post, no one would've taken umbrage.

I'm sure Michael Helgeson would have loved for this thread to be nothing more than "omg herez my list guyz!  These games r my faves!! LOL", but I thought the topic deserved a more critical response (call it trolling if you must, but that's a pretty limited viewpoint IMO).

Intimating that this thread is pointless and that we're all deluded for believing that any PCE/Turbo fighters are good is trolling, pure and simple.
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2008, 05:34:42 AM »


And what was that nonsense again exactly about denying your a NG.Com elitest?  :lol:
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2008, 02:02:09 AM »
So the guy loves Samurai Shodown IV, what's wrong with that? Its a great game.
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2008, 06:58:30 AM »
So the guy loves Samurai Shodown IV, what's wrong with that? Its a great game.

You clearly missed all the above, didn't you?  :? Posting the pic has nothing to do with how good or bad the game itself is.
Seeing this explained alot of the above to me too:

Someone gave me this last nite, forgot to post it. Only 3 friends on Neo forums even, one of which is that asshat Rade who was mentioned above, the Neoshiller who was ripping folks off on ebay back from 03-07. Im not evening going to give credit to anything else this sad f*ck says. Anymore post he aims at me, hes just going to be left talking to himself.

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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2008, 01:10:08 PM »
Hey he has the same birthday as my dad (which is a day after mine)!
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2008, 01:51:07 AM »
So the guy loves Samurai Shodown IV, what's wrong with that? Its a great game.
You clearly missed all the above, didn't you?  :? Posting the pic has nothing to do with how good or bad the game itself is.
Seeing this explained alot of the above to me too:

You appear to love digging for hidden meanings in just about every post.  But you clearly missed that my post was 100% sarcasm.
Granted it was just text, I guess I should use a smiley next time.  [-(

I have read all the posts in this topic, and they sound like every other massive post you've made in the past.  Looking out for a fellow board member is cool, but you tend to go way too extreme in my opinion.   I love the PCE but its a videogame system.  The PCE doesn't have feelings.  So the guy doesn't like the PCE fighting game library.  So what? Does it effect the actual PCE? No! Does it effect your enjoyment of such games? I hope not.  If he doesn't like the fighters, that just leaves an extra copy of each for someone who does enjoy them. 

Windancer's (sorry to bring you in as an example, my friend) first impressions of Go! Go! Birdie Chance disappointed me a bit, but its his choice.  When he's done his review he might totally hate it, but I'll still enjoy my copy.  His loss, not mine.  If every member here plays GGBC and decides it sucks, I'll still post the things I like about it.

I typically hate getting involved in these things, but lately half the posts on this board turn into witch-hunts, and I'm sick of it.  You left the neo-geo boards right?  So forget them already. - RANT OVER

For PCE fighters I only have 3.  Advanced VG, Tengai Makyou, and SFII'.  I'm most partial to AVG to be honest.  Its a sucky game, but I'm a fan of the series.  Real shame the latter games of the series weren't actual fighters.
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #40 on: October 19, 2008, 02:01:30 AM »


You appear to love digging for hidden meanings in just about every post.  But you clearly missed that my post was 100% sarcasm.
Granted it was just text, I guess I should use a smiley next time.  [-(
Theres treasure everywhere if you dig long enough :). But yea,maybe you should have.  [-X

I have read all the posts in this topic, and they sound like every other massive post you've made in the past.  Looking out for a fellow board member is cool, but you tend to go way too extreme in my opinion. 

I wasn't taking up for any specific member here, but more or less the community itself, as that is what he was referring to basically. My reaction would not be much different if someone were to actually come into my own home and insult my family. Some view that as extreme maybe? Sure, others however would not. To each their own.

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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #41 on: October 19, 2008, 07:50:01 AM »
I love 2D fighting games, but haven't had anyone to willing to play them with regularly since I became able to fill out my PCE fighting game library.

So the only fighters I've really gotten into and appreciated have been SFIICE and Itouryoden (because it's TM + SFII). But that doesn't reflect on the PC Engine at all, the only fighters I've gotten into on Genesis and SNES have been the SFII's and MK 1 & 2. Even though I love fighting games.

Neo Geo arcade fighters weren't very popular in my hometown so I never got into them. It's hard to learn them and get into them on my own today when I could be playing a PCE game of another genre that I love like RPG when I have yet to play every last one of them.

But this thread has inspired me to ask the one local friend I have that might be willing to give them a try with me. Even though we'd only be able to get together once every week or two tops. The other alternative I have and I am beginning to seriously consider, is training my girlfriend to play street fighting games. She loves competition and is open minded, so it should it shouldn't take much convincing. :P

Also, as far as I'm concerned, a thread discussing your favorite of even just two options is not only worthwhile, but exactly what this forum needs right now.
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #42 on: October 19, 2008, 11:55:30 AM »
Someone gave me this last nite, forgot to post it. Only 3 friends on Neo forums even, one of which is that asshat

This thread is so awesome.  Michael Helgeson has singlehandedly turned this thread from one about PCE fighting games into one about me.  (I am way pretty by the way, wowee)

Out of those three people, I only actually know one.  The other two are just random friend requests I accepted.  I guess I could just start shooting off friend requests to people I like on the boards or whatever, but Neo-Geo.com is not myspace, I know exactly one person there in "real life".

I was trying to add to the discussion -- maybe it was me who was misguided, but thank the lord because I'm loving what this thread has become.
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #43 on: October 19, 2008, 12:45:34 PM »
Sooooooooo..back on topic

Finally got around to trying Flash Hiders.  Fun game, very nice graphics, and music.  Decent speed to it, and cool characters.  Not mind blowing, but a solid fighter. Still havelove for SF II, though I am personally still in a SF "funk".  Played it so often, and for so long. Still a great game, and the PCE port is my fave.  Kabuki Itouryodan , is prob my fave fighter (at least so far).  Butter smooth animatuions, great graphics & sound...and it's got Kabuki=instant win. ;)
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Re: Favorite Turbo/PCE fighting games
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2008, 01:58:05 PM »
  Michael Helgeson has singlehandedly turned this thread from one about PCE fighting games into one about me.

Actually, you did that.

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