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nat

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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #150 on: April 23, 2011, 03:45:17 PM »
I'll agree with everything Ceti just said.

It's just the suggestion that HuCards are somehow NOT cartridges that boggles my mind. You can't argue with dictionary definitions, people.

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« Reply #151 on: April 23, 2011, 03:54:19 PM »
You can't argue with dictionary definitions, people.
Of course you can... that's how dictionary definitions are changed.

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« Reply #152 on: April 23, 2011, 03:59:54 PM »
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HuCards are just another form of cartridge
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So the PS3 doesn't read various formats of "discs" and CDs, DVDs and BluRays are all something different?

And another example from another realm.

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Just like cars and trucks are both automobiles,

I believe the point is that 'card' is a specific type of 'cartridge' (although it is actually the other way around), much like a 'cd' or 'dvd' is a specific type of optical media. And just because a more restrictive definition exists does -not- imply that it has to be used.

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there are enough media variations in the world of video games to warrant specific terminology.   
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By strict definition, which is really what you have to go by...

I feel it is no more wrong to describe the pce media as cartridges than it is to describe human beings as mammals. Moreover, by the strict definition ruling, one could never call anyone 'human'; you would need to specify caucasoid, negroid, amerind, etc.
There are times when it is just awkward to list out to possible sub-classifications, and the more generic one sounds better. Or does radeon-based personal computer interface video display edge card really sound better to you than "PCI VGA Card" or even "Video Card" ?

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You can't argue with dictionary definitions, people.
If every dictionary had the same definition all the time, I might agree. But definitions differ depending on who edits the dictionary, and words change in meaning all the time. Keep in mind even dictionary editors agree that their definitions are based on "common useage" - that is, the way people use the words: not any specific meaning, but the meaning in relation to other commonly used words.

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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #153 on: April 23, 2011, 04:46:03 PM »
Show me a definition of "cartridge" that would exclude the HuCard medium from falling under the term.

You couldn't change the definition of "cartridge" and still have it describe all the items it currently does, but not HuCards, short of tacking "except HuCards" on the end of the definition.
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« Reply #154 on: April 23, 2011, 06:57:55 PM »
cartridge:
A small modular unit designed to be inserted into a larger piece of equipment.
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A removable unit in a computer, such as an integrated circuit, containing software.

There ya have it. :D A HuCard is a cartridge. :)

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« Reply #155 on: April 23, 2011, 07:28:07 PM »
But..  I thought it was a breakfast item??

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« Reply #156 on: April 23, 2011, 08:09:52 PM »
Anything can be a breakfast item. It need not be exclusive to one definition only. :)

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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #157 on: April 24, 2011, 12:34:43 AM »
For me:

CDs, DVDs, floppys and various flat rotating media are "disks".
Small plastic enclosures containing a pcb with some sort of memory are "cartridges".
An exposed circuit board is either a "board", "circuit board", or "pcb".
Hucards, Bee Cards, Sega Cards, credit cards, business cards, or any similarly shaped thing is a "card".

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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #158 on: April 24, 2011, 04:46:11 AM »
We have reached a consensus: the HuCard is a card.

Next topic... :)
« Last Edit: April 24, 2011, 04:48:02 AM by esteban »
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« Reply #159 on: April 24, 2011, 05:42:16 AM »
So the PS3 doesn't read various formats of "discs" and CDs, DVDs and BluRays are all something different?

All of the things the PS3 reads have "disc" in the name of them.

Compact Disc, Digital Video Disc, BluRay Disc, and they all fit in the same slot.

With the master system example.  Carts go in the cart slot, cards go in the card slot.

Does your PS3 have a new opening for each disc?  No.

Anyway, cartridges are just cards shoved in a plastic shell.  They're pussy versions of HuCards.  They need big protective shells when all the HuCard needs is sleek plastic.
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« Reply #160 on: April 24, 2011, 12:17:05 PM »
So the PS3 doesn't read various formats of "discs" and CDs, DVDs and BluRays are all something different?

All of the things the PS3 reads have "disc" in the name of them.

Compact Disc, Digital Video Disc, BluRay Disc, and they all fit in the same slot.

With the master system example.  Carts go in the cart slot, cards go in the card slot.

Does your PS3 have a new opening for each disc?  No.

No, but that's my point, they are all types of discs. Gamecube discs are tiny as well, but they're still a type of disc. The 32X accepts different types of carts through the same slot like the PS3. The DS has(had) two different cart slots, for two different types of carts, just like the SMS.

The overall method that "discs" interact with hardware is the same.
The overall method that "cards" and "carts" interact with hardware is the same.
The overall method that "digital downloads interact" with hardware is the same.
The overall method that "cassette tapes" interact with hardware is the same.
The overall method that "disks" interact with hardware is the same.

SMS/SG-1000/Mark III card games coexisted with standard cart games. They had to call them something to indicate the difference. Especially since they were asking the consumer to buy an add-on to run them. Same with the MSX. They couldn't just call them "Wimpy Carts", there had to be some sort of marketing to sell them.

Famicom carts say that they're "Cassettes". NES carts say that they are "Paks". It doesn't matter what kind of marketing term they're presented with, they're still types of cartridge games.


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Anyway, cartridges are just cards shoved in a plastic shell.  They're pussy versions of HuCards.  They need big protective shells when all the HuCard needs is sleek plastic.

Obviously. 8)
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« Reply #161 on: April 24, 2011, 01:17:44 PM »
We have reached a consensus: the HuCard is a card.

Next topic... :)

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« Reply #162 on: April 24, 2011, 01:56:43 PM »
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« Reply #163 on: April 24, 2011, 02:17:45 PM »
....Gamecube discs are tiny as well....

They look like cookie
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« Reply #164 on: April 24, 2011, 03:04:53 PM »
....Gamecube discs are tiny as well....

They look like cookie


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