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A HuCard is...
« on: May 14, 2008, 05:59:49 AM »
Was watching a youtube video this morning talking about Famicom cartridges; while doing so, it was suggested that PC Engine/Turbografx HuCards are not cartridges.

Are they, or aren't they? And what, exactly, is the definition of a cartridge?
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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2008, 06:10:17 AM »
Cartridge-
a small part with a particular purpose, used in a larger piece of equipment, which can be easily replaced with another similar part.

In this vein most of our wankers can be considered cartridges- but not mine- mine's too big.

A hucard is most certainly a cartridge.

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« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2008, 06:11:02 AM »
Not a cartridge.  Its a plastic card with a PCB glued to it.  This is not a cartridge as the PCB is not contained in anything, its just flipped over and painted black.  Its a Hudson Card.  8)

The Japanese company's loved comming up with their own names though.  Neo Geo AES games are "ROM Cassettes" acording to the Japanese packaging.  :dance:
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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2008, 06:12:32 AM »
Of course they are cartridges. Why the hell wouldn't they be? In fact, I rarely refer to them as "HuCards" because most people will stare blankly at you when you do so.

They are a plastic game medium that interfaces with the system via a set of pins. Sure they are smaller than most cartridges, but that's just because NEC rocks and was efficient when designing them. Why would they NOT be a cartridge?

Anyone who says otherwise is a doofus.

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« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2008, 06:37:08 AM »
That is so stupid. Of course they are! What else would they be? I often describe my Turbo Duo as a system that plays both Cartridge and CD games. Although, I do use this description for people who know nothing about the Turbo... :-k
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« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2008, 07:02:31 AM »
cartridge: bullet, gunpowder, and primer packaged into a single metallic case precisely made to fit the firing chamber of a firearm.  :lol:

HuCards are cartridges in my book.  I classify games as either disc (CDs, DVDs, floppies, etc.), cartridge (PCBs), or download.

Not a cartridge.  Its a plastic card with a PCB glued to it.  This is not a cartridge as the PCB is not contained in anything, its just flipped over and painted black.

Following that logic: gluing another piece of plastic on top of a HuCard will magically transform it into a cartridge, and removing a SNES (or whatever) cartridge from its case will forever end its life as a cartridge.  Sounds goofy to me.
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« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2008, 07:18:40 AM »
They are not carttridges, to me but cards. The name says it all, doesn't it?
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« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2008, 08:54:41 AM »
They are not carttridges, to me but cards. The name says it all, doesn't it?

Following that logic- an iBook would actually be a book and not a computer, a hamburger would be made out ham and a hot dog would be made from dog meat.  :roll:

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« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2008, 08:56:58 AM »
YEah, what if I had an NES cartridge shaped like a boot? Would it then be a boot and stop being a cartridge?

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« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2008, 08:58:32 AM »
YEah, what if I had an NES cartridge shaped like a boot? Would it then be a boot and stop being a cartridge?

better yet- whose ass would you apply it to?  :lol:

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« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2008, 09:02:50 AM »
At the risk of sounding like a doofus  8) 8) I never considered HuCARDS cartridges. Any cartridge I've seen, up to the N64, were big clunky P.O.S. that you had to blow on to get them to work properly. I always go by the saying "If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck..." - the HuCARD does neither. It's its own thing. Sure it performs the same function, but so do CDs. The SMS is a perfect example -they didn't call both game formats cartridges. They called the main cartridges "cartridges", and the cards "cards".

Basically, I look at Turbochips and Sega Cards as completely different formats from cartridges and CDs. However, technically they are cartridges. Wiki explains cartridges as:

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In various types of electronic equipment, a cartridge can refer one method of adding different functionality or content (e.g. a video game cartridge), or a method by which consumables may be replenished (e.g. an ink cartridge for a printer). The term cartridge tends to be applied loosely to a large range of techniques which conform to this general description.

In general, the term tends to mean any detachable sub-unit that is held within its own container. The term cassette has a similar meaning. A video game cartridge may also be referred to as a cart or game pak.

Now, I've never called a cassette tape a cartridge and I would look at anyone strange for calling it that. It may by broad definition be a cartridge, but no one calls them cartridges. I tend to see HuCARDs in that way. Technically, by definition, they are cartridges, but we all know they are something else, and better.  8) By most definitions of cartridge, CDs also fall under that category. CDs are inserted into a bigger instrument and are easily replaceable. I guess MiniDiscs would more easily fit the cartridge definition than just regular CDs since they are encased; however, it's still just a CD in a plastic case. So is it just the plastic case that makes it a cartridge?
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« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2008, 09:12:50 AM »
Its a cartridge to me but never really thought about it until now  :-k … take away all the game casings from different system carts and you end up with the same teeth (whatever they are called) that need to be inserted into a device/system, me 2 cents. 
Edit: ceti's comment has me thinking though :-k
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Re: A HuCard is...
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2008, 09:13:43 AM »
I voted NOt a caRtridge! since it is a rom card  :)

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« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2008, 09:22:34 AM »
I voted NOt a caRtridge! since it is a rom card  :)

and what exactly is a "rom card" if not a cartridge?  :-k  You've opened one serious can of worms Guyjin!

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« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2008, 10:05:38 AM »
Interesting. So we are arguing semantics?

 I voted for cartridge, but technically it's not IMO. It's a card. A cartridge is a hollow case(usually two halves) that houses a PCB. A card is either glued to or molded with, a slim PCB. The share the same purpose (protecting the PCB), but are nothing alike in design.