A HuCard is...

[ceti alpha]

I voted NOt a caRtridge! since it is a rom card 

and what exactly is a "rom card" if not a cartridge?    You've opened one serious can of worms Guyjin!

hahaha!! Did he ever!! Curse you Guyjin!! 

But seriously, I spent my whole drive home thinking about this. lol I still think that by strict definition (at least from what I've found online), HuCARDs are cartridges. But by strict definition many things are cartridges that I never really considered such. For example, flash memory cards, by definition are cartridges. They hold information and are inserted into a larger instrument (i.e. computers, dvd players, gaming consoles), but I've never considered them cartridges. I've always referred to them as cards or sticks.

OK. I just found something.

http://www.computerhope.com/jargon/r/romcard.htm

If you click "ROM cartridge" on that link, the definition of "ROM cartridge" states that it's virtually identical to the ROM Card except that it's bigger.

[Necromancer]

Cartridge..... card..... cartridge..... card..... I'm so confused. 

Where's the fourth option, guyjin?  Did you forget that HuCards are also part of a balanced breakfast? 

[guyjin]

You've opened one serious can of worms Guyjin!

That's what I'm here for. 

Anyway, here's the video I was too lazy to link to this morning:
He doesn't directly say so, but it's implied around 1:10.

Where's the fourth option, guyjin?  Did you forget that HuCards are also part of a balanced breakfast? 

Yes I did. I've fixed the error. 

[nectarsis]

I voted cartridge...the only difference between a NES/SNES cart, etc.  is the way the innards are housed.  I mean take apart a NES cart...how much useless dead area is there.  So maybe we should define a cartridge as a media form that wastes room/plastic, and the cards are a much more efficient way to house the media in a least wasteful, space saving CARTRIDGE 

[rag-time4]

I voted 'not a cartridge'

If I was going to be a tool like Sinistron and just go blindly along with the dictionary definition, I'd have to agree that HuCards are cartridges... but no...

HuCards are a separate identity. Dictionary definitions don't have to be set in stone, and can be changed by a dedicated group of people... HuCards shouldn't be lumped together with those clunky space wasters that, as Ceti pointed out, need you to blow on em half the time before they work.

One word that has had it's original meaning corrupted is the term "semite"

According to the dictionary, the term "semite" includes a number of Afro-Asiatic linguistic groups, including Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Ethiopic, and some others... but the definition has been corrupted by Zionists to refer exclusively to Jews... to the point that when people say "anti-semitism" it is understood that it is Jews who are being talked about and not any of the other "semites"

[turbokon]

When I tell people who have never heard of a turbo grafx 16, I tell them that the games came in a cerdit card size game card.  I don't think of it as a cartridge even technicly it is.  I think of cartridge as being big and clunky as found on the other systems.

[Sinistron]

This is quite the confusing post Rag-time.

HuCards are a separate identity. Dictionary definitions don't have to be set in stone, and can be changed by a dedicated group of people... HuCards shouldn't be lumped together with those clunky space wasters that, as Ceti pointed out, need you to blow on em half the time before they work.

so, how does this "dedicated group of people" who can change the definition differ from these "zionists" who changed what the word "semite" means?

According to the dictionary, the term "semite" includes a number of Afro-Asiatic linguistic groups, including Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Ethiopic, and some others... but the definition has been corrupted by Zionists to refer exclusively to Jews... to the point that when people say "anti-semitism" it is understood that it is Jews who are being talked about and not any of the other "semites"

You seem to be making two opposing points here- 1) That it's good for dedicated people to change a definition
and 2) that a dedicated group of fanatics who changed a word "corrupted" it and therefore did a bad thing.

Two opposing thoughts that lead f*cking nowhere and somehow I'm the tool.


Hey- maybe it is a cartridge and maybe it isn't- but you're most certainly quite the "card". 

[rag-time4]

This is quite the confusing post Rag-time.

HuCards are a separate identity. Dictionary definitions don't have to be set in stone, and can be changed by a dedicated group of people... HuCards shouldn't be lumped together with those clunky space wasters that, as Ceti pointed out, need you to blow on em half the time before they work.

so, how does this "dedicated group of people" who can change the definition differ from these "zionists" who changed what the word "semite" means?

According to the dictionary, the term "semite" includes a number of Afro-Asiatic linguistic groups, including Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Ethiopic, and some others... but the definition has been corrupted by Zionists to refer exclusively to Jews... to the point that when people say "anti-semitism" it is understood that it is Jews who are being talked about and not any of the other "semites"

You seem to be making two opposing points here- 1) That it's good for dedicated people to change a definition
and 2) that a dedicated group of fanatics who changed a word "corrupted" it and therefore did a bad thing.

Two opposing thoughts that lead f*cking nowhere and somehow I'm the tool.


Hey- maybe it is a cartridge and maybe it isn't- but you're most certainly quite the "card". 

In the case of "two opposing thoughts" ... it's all about intentions. The current definition of cartridges doesn't take into account that HuCards are cards, and not clunky hunks of plastic!

The coolness factor of HuCards needs to be taken into account in that definition! The dictionary definition of "cartridge" doesn't seem to really take the gaming community into consideration... by the dictionary definition, it seems like CDs can be considered cartridges, as someone else said above.

I used the example of the term "semite" to show you that the changing of the definition of words has happened in recent history, so accepting the definitions in the dictionary as unchangeable is the behavior of a tool!

[Sinistron]

This is quite the confusing post Rag-time.

HuCards are a separate identity. Dictionary definitions don't have to be set in stone, and can be changed by a dedicated group of people... HuCards shouldn't be lumped together with those clunky space wasters that, as Ceti pointed out, need you to blow on em half the time before they work.

so, how does this "dedicated group of people" who can change the definition differ from these "zionists" who changed what the word "semite" means?

According to the dictionary, the term "semite" includes a number of Afro-Asiatic linguistic groups, including Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Ethiopic, and some others... but the definition has been corrupted by Zionists to refer exclusively to Jews... to the point that when people say "anti-semitism" it is understood that it is Jews who are being talked about and not any of the other "semites"

You seem to be making two opposing points here- 1) That it's good for dedicated people to change a definition
and 2) that a dedicated group of fanatics who changed a word "corrupted" it and therefore did a bad thing.

Two opposing thoughts that lead f*cking nowhere and somehow I'm the tool.


Hey- maybe it is a cartridge and maybe it isn't- but you're most certainly quite the "card". 

In the case of "two opposing thoughts" ... it's all about intentions. The current definition of cartridges doesn't take into account that HuCards are cards, and not clunky hunks of plastic!

The coolness factor of HuCards needs to be taken into account in that definition! The dictionary definition of "cartridge" doesn't seem to really take the gaming community into consideration... by the dictionary definition, it seems like CDs can be considered cartridges, as someone else said above.

I used the example of the term "semite" to show you that the changing of the definition of words has happened in recent history, so accepting the definitions in the dictionary as unchangeable is the behavior of a tool!

Hmmm.  Seems like you completely missed the bit in my initial post where I said right after posting the definition of cartridge- "In this vein most of our wankers can be considered cartridges"...  Now maybe you'd like to show me how I'm going "blindly along with the dictionary definition" instead of actually pointing out how vague it is?

Other than that BLARING mistake you made in sizing up my post- I ask you to point out to me where I state something along the lines of the definitions in the dictionary are unchangeable and/or are not meant to be changed. 

As Malducci correctly surmised- this is a thread about semantics.  I am a 'tool' for showing a definition- and then making a joke about the vagueness of it?  Clearly (or maybe not so clearly if you're a muddle headed fool) the reason I picked it as being a cartridge wasn't because I feel so rigidly about the definition.  If you think that I actually consider my penis or anyone else's to be a cartridge in anything other than a joking "poetic-license" sense then you are the entire tool f*cking shed- not just a mere tool.

Now- what was your point again?

[Lord Thag]

It's a rom chip that plugs into a console using copper contacts containing game data. Therefor, it is a cartridge.

It just happens to be a cartridge that looks like it was made last week, rather than twenty years ago. Damn sexy piece of electronics, the hucard! 

[nat]

That's what I'm saying. I just don't even see how there could be any debate.

I mean..... It's. a. cartridge.

[ceti alpha]

 

Damn you guyjin!! 

The debate isn't really if the HuCARD is a cartridge or not; it's really just about if you consider it a cartridge. It's just semantics. A HuCARD is a type of cartridge, but it's certainly unique in the world of consoles. Though calling it a cartridge isn't entirely precise, it is a form of cartridge. A memory card is also a type of cartridge (again, from the definitions I've read online), and so are a lot of things.

Anyway, this should be a fun debate. I don't think there's any reason for name calling. Everyone put their cartridge back in their pants. 

[Turbo D]

When I think of a cartridge, I think of a case that encloses an item. Like a cd cartridge from those old skool multi-disk players or a gun's magazine ( also called a cartridge.) I suppose you could call a hucard a cartridge, but it sounds out of place. Take the Sega MasterSystem for example; it has a cartridge slot and a card slot. Sega seems to agree that a rom card is different from a cartridge. Yay Sega!

[rag-time4]

This is quite the confusing post Rag-time.

HuCards are a separate identity. Dictionary definitions don't have to be set in stone, and can be changed by a dedicated group of people... HuCards shouldn't be lumped together with those clunky space wasters that, as Ceti pointed out, need you to blow on em half the time before they work.

so, how does this "dedicated group of people" who can change the definition differ from these "zionists" who changed what the word "semite" means?

According to the dictionary, the term "semite" includes a number of Afro-Asiatic linguistic groups, including Hebrew, Arabic, Aramaic, Ethiopic, and some others... but the definition has been corrupted by Zionists to refer exclusively to Jews... to the point that when people say "anti-semitism" it is understood that it is Jews who are being talked about and not any of the other "semites"

You seem to be making two opposing points here- 1) That it's good for dedicated people to change a definition
and 2) that a dedicated group of fanatics who changed a word "corrupted" it and therefore did a bad thing.

Two opposing thoughts that lead f*cking nowhere and somehow I'm the tool.


Hey- maybe it is a cartridge and maybe it isn't- but you're most certainly quite the "card". 

In the case of "two opposing thoughts" ... it's all about intentions. The current definition of cartridges doesn't take into account that HuCards are cards, and not clunky hunks of plastic!

The coolness factor of HuCards needs to be taken into account in that definition! The dictionary definition of "cartridge" doesn't seem to really take the gaming community into consideration... by the dictionary definition, it seems like CDs can be considered cartridges, as someone else said above.

I used the example of the term "semite" to show you that the changing of the definition of words has happened in recent history, so accepting the definitions in the dictionary as unchangeable is the behavior of a tool!

Hmmm.  Seems like you completely missed the bit in my initial post where I said right after posting the definition of cartridge- "In this vein most of our wankers can be considered cartridges"...  Now maybe you'd like to show me how I'm going "blindly along with the dictionary definition" instead of actually pointing out how vague it is?

Other than that BLARING mistake you made in sizing up my post- I ask you to point out to me where I state something along the lines of the definitions in the dictionary are unchangeable and/or are not meant to be changed. 

As Malducci correctly surmised- this is a thread about semantics.  I am a 'tool' for showing a definition- and then making a joke about the vagueness of it?  Clearly (or maybe not so clearly if you're a muddle headed fool) the reason I picked it as being a cartridge wasn't because I feel so rigidly about the definition.  If you think that I actually consider my penis or anyone else's to be a cartridge in anything other than a joking "poetic-license" sense then you are the entire tool f*cking shed- not just a mere tool.

Now- what was your point again?

My point was that cartridges are for the masses, HuCards are for us!

And don't try to explain away the last sentence of your first post as if we didn't see that!

A hucard is most certainly a cartridge.

Most certainly because it fits the dictionary definition! Not that you're pretty sure... but MOST CERTAINLY! Seems pretty rigid to me!

Cartridges are for the masses... SNES, Genesis, NES... those are cartridges.... but HuCards are HuCards!

The dictionary definition doesn't take into account the fact that the TurboGrafx-16 rules, dude!!! HuCards are so awesome they have their own word, and rightly so!

By the way Sinistron, I just noticed in the shoutbox you said that you are trying to quit smoking, so it seems I picked a bad time to give you a hard time!! May God bless you and your wife and make things easy for you!

[SignOfZeta]

You guys are crazy. They are the same thing.

One of the oldest usage of the term "cartridge" is for firearms. In this case it replaced loading and packing each round one at a time with a simple interchangeable cartridge. Likewise a NES, Neo Geo, or HuCard cart/card saves you the trouble of actually soldering in all those ROM chips by providing an interchangeable case (or cassette, just means "small case" in French), or cartridge.