A HuCard is...

[rag-time4]

You guys are crazy. They are the same thing.

One of the oldest usage of the term "cartridge" is for firearms. In this case it replaced loading and packing each round one at a time with a simple interchangeable cartridge. Likewise a NES, Neo Geo, or HuCard cart/card saves you the trouble of actually soldering in all those ROM chips by providing an interchangeable case (or cassette, just means "small case" in French), or cartridge.

Nooooo Sign of Zeta and Sinistron agree on this one... what have I unleashed??

Zeta, if we're crazy, you're no fun!

[Turbo D]

You guys are crazy. They are the same thing.

One of the oldest usage of the term "cartridge" is for firearms. In this case it replaced loading and packing each round one at a time with a simple interchangeable cartridge. Likewise a NES, Neo Geo, or HuCard cart/card saves you the trouble of actually soldering in all those ROM chips by providing an interchangeable case (or cassette, just means "small case" in French), or cartridge.

A hucard is not a small case; it does not enclose anything. I don't know if you read my earlier post or not, but I already brought up the firearm cartridge  . You can call me crazy, but will you call Sega crazy?

[Sinistron]

My point was that cartridges are for the masses, HuCards are for us!

And don't try to explain away the last sentence of your first post as if we didn't see that!

A hucard is most certainly a cartridge.

Most certainly because it fits the dictionary definition! Not that you're pretty sure... but MOST CERTAINLY! Seems pretty rigid to me!

Act like you didn't see what?  My opinion on the matter- after I showed how vague the dictionary definition is?
Honestly man you need to grow up and develop your brain a little more.

Cartridges are for the masses... SNES, Genesis, NES... those are cartridges.... but HuCards are HuCards!

The dictionary definition doesn't take into account the fact that the TurboGrafx-16 rules, dude!!! HuCards are so awesome they have their own word, and rightly so!

By the way Sinistron, I just noticed in the shoutbox you said that you are trying to quit smoking, so it seems I picked a bad time to give you a hard time!! May God bless you and your wife and make things easy for you!

Wrong again.  I never said I was trying to quit smoking.  Those on the shoutbox who know me better know that every week I take breaks from smoking- with no intention of quitting.  There were other reasons beyond that that me and my girlfriend (not wife) were having a hard time last night- and if you'd like to air my personal business that I was referring to amongst friends in that regard then I must warn you- I will seriously burn you and make you look more convoluted and desperate than you're already looking- than a bunch of us on shoutbox last night already agreed you look.  I believe that the running joke last night was that I am a zionist for calling a hucard a cartridge.  If you care to be the fodder for more shoutbox humor then so be it.

[guyjin]

and if you'd like to air my personal business that I was referring to amongst friends in that regard then I must warn you-

The shoutbox is not private, and you shouldn't expect it to be.

[Sinistron]

and if you'd like to air my personal business that I was referring to amongst friends in that regard then I must warn you-

The shoutbox is not private, and you shouldn't expect it to be.

You are correct- and I don't expect it to be-
however he A) took information from there that he clearly didn't understand, B) comes on here and adds wrong information about a dispute between me and my girlfriend as if it's comedy- when 1) it isn't and 2) has nothing to do with anything about hucards being cartridges or not. Twiggy came onto the shout trying to be Mr. Personality after calling me a tool- we argued further there and then later on he combed the shoutbox for information that wasn't directed to him but to the few people who were there- and though the shoutbox isn't personal- the misquoted information was and though perhaps I shouldn't have said it there there is zero cause for it to be repeated here. 
 

Nooooo Sign of Zeta and Sinistron agree on this one... what have I unleashed??

What have you unleashed?  You were not the first person here to say that a hucard isn't a cartridge- and if you were and if you happened to be the first poster here aside from Guyjin you still wouldn't have altered either me or Zeta's opinions.  You have unleashed nothing- this is Guyjin's post - the opinions were already there - a debate on the opinions has been unleashed but certainly not by you. 

[malducci]

Guys.. just chill out. This is the third or fourth time I've seen mention of the shoutbox used for "we'll have/had a good laugh at you in the shout box at your expense for what you posted - blah -blah -blah" type of clique crap. It's immature and annoying.

 That out of the way.

 A PCB by itself *is* a card, not a cartridge. A cartridge, in context, is a case the encloses a PCB. A cartridge is a type of case. A hucard does not enclose a PCB. The plastic provides physically structure to support the PCB, not enclosing it like a cartridge. The PCB is fully exposed (the black part). It's the same as with a credit card. The magnetic strip is supported by the card's plastic (as well as some ICs for credit cards). Credit Cards are not cartridges.

[Sinistron]

Rag- take a breather man. 
I'll respond for you and save you the energy- you look like you need it.

Malducci- I'm not following you either.  EVERYTHING you posted so far is for the argument that hucards are not cartridges- and yet in your first post you say you voted for cartridge? 

[malducci]

Malducci- I'm not following you either.  EVERYTHING you posted so far is for the argument that hucards are not cartridges- and yet in your first post you say you voted for cartridge? 

 IMO: Technically it's not a cartridge, but in generality it is a cartridge since it serves the a similar purpose - provide a physical plug in media for a game  rom.

[nectarsis]

So it is, but it isn't 

[ceti alpha]

A PCB by itself *is* a card, not a cartridge. A cartridge, in context, is a case the encloses a PCB. A cartridge is a type of case. A hucard does not enclose a PCB. The plastic provides physically structure to support the PCB, not enclosing it like a cartridge. The PCB is fully exposed (the black part). It's the same as with a credit card. The magnetic strip is supported by the card's plastic (as well as some ICs for credit cards). Credit Cards are not cartridges.

You've pretty much sold me. I forgot that the PCB is just the black part of the HuCARD. It isn't enclosed.

As silly as this debate is, it's obviously been an unanswered question that has been lingering. hehe And though it will probably remain unanswered by some, I'm satisfied. It's not a cartridge.  O:) O:)

[Sinistron]

It's the whole black or white thing that is getting everyone ruffled here I fear.
I posit forth the notion that  It IS a cartridge- in the shape of a CARD!   :-"

however a cartridge in the shape of a card is a cartridge first and foremost 

[nat]

But.... It's a cartridge.

 A PCB by itself *is* a card, not a cartridge.

Sure it is, if it has connector pins meant to be used to plug it into a larger unit for interface.

[SignOfZeta]

A hucard is not a small case; it does not enclose anything.

Yes, it is. Yes, it does. Rip apart a HuCard some time. Only a very small percentage of its mass is actual ROM.

. You can call me crazy, but will you call Sega crazy?

Its not crazy, its just a marketable use of language. Nintendo called Famicom carts "cassettes" in Japan and NES "Game Packs" in the US. Sony makes a "Memory Stick®" while most stuff uses an SD "memory card". Is one a "stick", and one a "card"? They are all cartridges in the shape of cards.

[Sinistron]

A hucard is not a small case; it does not enclose anything.

Yes, it is. Yes, it does. Rip apart a HuCard some time. Only a very small percentage of its mass is actual ROM.

. You can call me crazy, but will you call Sega crazy?

Its not crazy, its just a marketable use of language. Nintendo called Famicom carts "cassettes" in Japan and NES "Game Packs" in the US. Sony makes a "Memory Stick®" while most stuff uses an SD "memory card". Is one a "stick", and one a "card"? They are all cartridges in the shape of cards.

yeah- I know hell's freezing over or whatever- but Zeta's 110% right.  There were photos on threads here I believe (or on other pce related sites) that I'm sure most of you have seen where a hucard is taken apart and the card is CLEARLY a case and is clearly mostly plastic- you don't even need to take it apart to see that.  Why is there even any debate?

He's also absolutely right that Sega calling their card-shaped cartridges "cards" was only about marketing- only the foolish would take it so literally.  Are you the same people who believe in blast processing? 

[malducci]

Sure it is, if it has connector pins meant to be used to plug it into a larger unit for interface.

 No so . Cards that plug into a mother board, be it ram, video, nic, sound, etc - are not cartridges. They are cards. A cartridge is a case that encloses something, be it bullets, pills, PCBs, etc.

Yes, it is. Yes, it does. Rip apart a HuCard some time. Only a very small percentage of its mass is actual ROM.

  I've taken apart many hucards (swapping around the PCBs to play tricks on friends). The plastic card does not enclose the PCB. It's glue to the under side. That's not enclosing or encasing a PCB.

 A car is not a truck, but both are vehicles.