A HuCard is...

[Michael Helgeson]

 Its based off of cart technoligy,and the chips are still protected by a protective layer so there is not direct exposure.In the loosest sense of the word its a cart,just compacted so there is no empty space. In the strictest sense it is its own format based off a prior one,the cart. Either way it goes hand in hand.

[Necromancer]

You can call me crazy, but will you call Sega crazy?

Damn right; the way they ran that company into the ground is the epitome of crazy. 

The plastic provides physically structure to support the PCB, not enclosing it like a cartridge. The PCB is fully exposed (the black part).

Isn't the black part a coating and not integral to the PCB making it fully encased (except for the contacts, obviously)?  I postulate that the white plastic card provides the cartridge back/sides and the black coating is the top.  If you don't buy that argument (who'd blame you?), then would you say that Street Fighter 2, Populous, and the Tennokoe Bank are indeed cartridges?

[Sinistron]

Both of the sides of the card are plastic straight up and down- meaning that in width the thing is plastic. if just the surface part isn't plastic- but behind it and the sides are all plastic- that's pretty much enclosed and encased MOSTLY in plastic- if you want to be so technical- more than half of it is encased in plastic since both the back and sides are.  More than half is a much better argument for than for against- and anyway the surface part is encased in something which itself is held firm by the plastic which is also level on the bottom surface area- making this sort of a thin scoop.  What's the black coating made of anyway? 

[nat]

Plastic. 

[Michael Helgeson]

Both of the sides of the card are plastic straight up and down- meaning that in width the thing is plastic. if just the surface part isn't plastic- but behind it and the sides are all plastic- that's pretty much enclosed and encased MOSTLY in plastic- if you want to be so technical- more than half of it is encased in plastic since both the back and sides are.  More than half is a much better argument for than for against- and anyway the surface part is encased in something which itself is held firm by the plastic which is also level on the bottom surface area- making this sort of a thin scoop.  What's the black coating made of anyway? 

Carbonite lol.
Exactly Sini. All that really diff between the cards and carts is the empty space normal carts have. Otherwise the technoligy is still basically the same.

[ceti alpha]

We should have asked the mighty ENIAC in the first place!!!!!

I've been hopping this fence like a rabbit on 6 cups of coffee, but that's it. It's a cartridge. I don't thinking calling it a cartridge is very descriptive, as the HuCARD is not a traditional form of cartridge, but it is a cartridge nonetheless.

[Sinistron]

HAHAHA We rolled Ceti over to our side! Take that you bastards!  "A hucard isn't a cartridge"!!  LOLOLOLOL   It's not TV! It's HBO! 

[malducci]

Isn't the black part a coating and not integral to the PCB making it fully encased (except for the contacts, obviously)?  I postulate that the white plastic card provides the cartridge back/sides and the black coating is the top.  If you don't buy that argument (who'd blame you?), then would you say that Street Fighter 2, Populous, and the Tennokoe Bank are indeed cartridges?

 The black part is in fact the PCB and PCB's have coatings, but that doesn't make it an enclosure since the coating to the PCB itself and not part of the card structure. Regarding Street Fighter 2 and the others with pop-ups, the pop-up serves only one purpose: to provided an area for the game label/logo. This is because the PCB is much longer than the normal PCB and therefore would drastically restrict the size of the label/logo.

Both of the sides of the card are plastic straight up and down- meaning that in width the thing is plastic.

 That doesn't make it a case/cartridge. (Also the top isn't plastic)

 Throwing all the technical jargon aside and going with the obvious/general, if you just look at it then you'll plainly see that it's a card - not a cart or cassette or cartridge in any of the traditional sense of the meaning. Funny, it wasn't till this thread that I really cared, but now I do damn it!!! 

[Michael Helgeson]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings,they have layers. The black area covers everything. if it wasn't there there would be exposed pcb,ect and it would look unattractive..

[malducci]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings

 But they do. If they didn't, then all the lands would be exposed to shorts and what not. Except for the very ancient PCBs, they all have a protective coating. But in the case of the Hucard, that backside is the PCB. Whatever material it is, that is the board in which the lands and rom/ICs are attached to. Regardless of it's esthetics 

[GohanX]

Pcbs don't generally have protective coatings,they have layers. The black area covers everything. if it wasn't there there would be exposed pcb,ect and it would look unattractive..

I dunno, I kind of like the exposed PCB look.  Neoflash's flash carts look awesome, in my opinion.  Of course, it's probably more fragile than an actual hucard since everything is exposed.

[spenoza]

Well, here's the real test of whether or not it's a true card. We need to punch holes in it and find a 35 year old computer. I mean, these HuCardWhatchamacallit's are just glorified punch cards, right?

[rag-time4]

Wrong again.  I never said I was trying to quit smoking.  Those on the shoutbox who know me better know that every week I take breaks from smoking- with no intention of quitting.  There were other reasons beyond that that me and my girlfriend (not wife) were having a hard time last night- and if you'd like to air my personal business that I was referring to amongst friends in that regard then I must warn you- I will seriously burn you and make you look more convoluted and desperate than you're already looking- than a bunch of us on shoutbox last night already agreed you look.  I believe that the running joke last night was that I am a zionist for calling a hucard a cartridge.  If you care to be the fodder for more shoutbox humor then so be it.

Sinistron, sorry for terribly misquoting what you said in shoutbox... I certainly didn't intend it as humor.

Whatever you and your gf are going through I hope that God will bless you and make it easy for you.

The reason I brought it up is just that you seemed to get super upset about my calling you a "tool"... Nat said in previous post that anyone who takes the position that I, Shubi, Superdeadite, and others who are more on the fence, have taken (that HuCards aren't cartridges) are "doofus"(es)

So, following in the spirit of Nat's post, in which he referred to opponents as "doofus"es, I responded by calling you a tool, for being too unquestioning of the dictionary definition... by extension, it also applies to others who feel that HuCards are cartridges because of what the dictionary says...

The reason I singled you out, Sinistron, wasn't for any other reason than you happened to be the one who posted the dictionary definition and then said that your position in the argument was "most certain" after quoting the dictionary definition.

Sorry that talking about your personal situation made you more upset. It wasn't my intention at all.

[Sinistron]

An apology of sorts- good enough for now.     Let's hug it out- and I won't squeeze too hard- you look breakable.   

[rag-time4]

An apology of sorts- good enough for now.     Let's hug it out- and I won't squeeze too hard- you look breakable.   

I'm slim and sleek like a HuCard... not fat and tubby like some clunky cartridge!!!