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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #195 on: August 10, 2010, 08:06:15 AM »
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i mentioned mini because this is what i compared it to which my dad drove back in 85... now that's a f*cking wagon!!!
http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1985_Pontiac_Parisienne.html


I'm quite familiar with that car. Before this ridiculous SUV fad hit, cars like this were very popular in my part of the country. There are even wagons bigger than this, like the early 90s Caprice, or the Ford LTD Country Squire which was HUUUUUGE. That doesn't make the Camry wagon small though, it just makes the GM ones huge. The Camry is a 3000 lb car that seats 5 and has an optional V6 engine. It just isn't a small car. Its not even below average.

A "mini" wagon would be something like:



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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #196 on: August 10, 2010, 08:19:15 AM »
I drive a green 1995 Ford Ranger XLT with a tool rack and a toolbox. It's a work truck so it's not pretty, but it has zero rust and decent paint. I got it with a swapped 70k mile 3.0 Vulcan v6 engine, the body has 125K. The previous owner ran the first engine out of oil, and I had to fix it (dead alternator, dead ICM) before I drove it home. I replaced the entire cooling system last summer, and put a seat in it from the junkyard, because it had a milk crate for a seat when I got it, and his dog had eaten away the passenger side bench. I replaced all 4 turn signal assemblies, the back windshield, and had to drop the gas tank to fix the emissions leaks for my CA smog inspection. I put a lifetime set of shocks, a new battery and 4 new tires on it 2 years ago, And the AC kit will go in sometime in the next few weeks when I have time to install it (100+ days are all too common in the valley). 


Damn, that truck has had a really hard life for only being a 95!

It sure has, but I've finally worked all of the kinks out of it. The previous owner ran it through the ringer, thats why I got it so cheap :mrgreen:
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #197 on: August 10, 2010, 09:02:36 AM »
When I got my Miata it looked like someone had lit it on fire. $7000 later, and its much better!

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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #198 on: August 10, 2010, 10:30:57 AM »
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i mentioned mini because this is what i compared it to which my dad drove back in 85... now that's a f*cking wagon!!!
http://www.stationwagon.com/gallery/1985_Pontiac_Parisienne.html


I'm quite familiar with that car. Before this ridiculous SUV fad hit, cars like this were very popular in my part of the country. There are even wagons bigger than this, like the early 90s Caprice, or the Ford LTD Country Squire which was HUUUUUGE. That doesn't make the Camry wagon small though, it just makes the GM ones huge. The Camry is a 3000 lb car that seats 5 and has an optional V6 engine. It just isn't a small car. Its not even below average.


Ever try to actually seat 5 averaged sized white boys in a camry wagon?  It aint a fun time.

It fits in the compact-car parking spots at work.  That makes it tiny.

My friends are big(fat) and when they get in the camry, I cringe.  They barely make it.

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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #199 on: August 10, 2010, 11:36:00 AM »
My car looks great but if you examine it closer you can tell its been hit in the front rear and underneath lol
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #200 on: August 10, 2010, 01:32:31 PM »
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Ever try to actually seat 5 averaged sized white boys in a camry wagon?  It aint a fun time.

Well yeah, the three in the back are usually supposed to be kids.

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It fits in the compact-car parking spots at work.  That makes it tiny.

In the parking garages in my town anything that isn't a GMC Denali will fit in the compact spaces.

My point is that in 1988 the MR-2, Supra, Corolla, Tercel, the pickup, and the Camry sedan are all smaller than this car (not to mention all the kei cars they didn't sell in the US). It isn't "mini" just because your friends are huge.

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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #201 on: August 10, 2010, 04:28:46 PM »
What it lacks in horsepower it makes up for in torque, the 351m is a high torque engine made for towing and hauling.

Yeah, 260ish ft/lbs stock and I'll be generous and say 300 ft/lbs with a 4bbl and full exhaust, which is roughly equivalent to a 351 powered eighth-gen f150.  Woohoo, feel the power and speed of blistering mid eights to 60 and 16s in the quarter!
Look, I don't have to argue with you, I know I'm right and I don't really care what anybody thinks. What do you drive anyway? a Bugatti Veyron?

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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #202 on: August 10, 2010, 05:05:31 PM »
Something people who drive old stuff have to come to grips with is that virtually everything made today is quicker than anything from 30 years ago. Sometimes the old stuff feels so fast just because the chassis is so shit and the noise is so bad that it feels like you are going 100 when you are only doing 30.

One of my favorite magazines did a performance test with an XKE and 356 versus a Odyssey minivan...the minivan ripped them both to shreds. Its an interesting read.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/

There are almost no cars being sold today that have less power than my 1.6 Miata from 18 years ago. Most V6 powered mini SUVs in 2011 can beat it 0-60. I don't give a shit. Since I can pull almost 1.2G in the corners on street tires I don't need to slow down very much at the track, and if you don't slow down, you don't need to speed back up again.

Have your fun and f*ck what other people say.


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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #203 on: August 10, 2010, 05:14:20 PM »
What it lacks in horsepower it makes up for in torque, the 351m is a high torque engine made for towing and hauling.

Yeah, 260ish ft/lbs stock and I'll be generous and say 300 ft/lbs with a 4bbl and full exhaust, which is roughly equivalent to a 351 powered eighth-gen f150.  Woohoo, feel the power and speed of blistering mid eights to 60 and 16s in the quarter!
Look, I don't have to argue with you, I know I'm right and I don't really care what anybody thinks. What do you drive anyway? a Bugatti Veyron?

My old 86 Monte Carlo SS with   180 HP @ 4800 RPM/ 225 ft/lbs @ 3200 RPM (without the Holley 650 4bbl) was no slouch for it's size. Mind you your truck also weighed 1,500-2,200lbs more, so it could prob "hang with your BEAST." ;)   Frankly around here trucks like that are a dime a dozen...nothing special.  If you like it that'sgreat...but the internet dick waving isn't doing anything for ya.  It may be your fav vehicle of all time, but taking offense to others not being OMG over a 33 year old vanilla pickup...does it really matter?

 Bugatti Veyron?  I mean your talking about a pretty mediocre truck and someone who uses real world #'s (you don't like) so you counter with they MUST drive a $2,000,000 super car?  So if they don't drive an ubber car they aren't as "cool" as you and your truck?  Rolling Eyes
   
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #204 on: August 10, 2010, 07:45:44 PM »
That article was pretty interesting.  With driver aids like ABS and TCS becoming standard items on cars, it'd definitely making driving faster easier than years before.  Hell, I'm for all that for cars as I guess I'm just pragmatic when it comes to 4-wheeled vehicles.  Because of that, I don't get the whole appeal of "fast" trucks -- I mean, I really miss my trucks from the days when I lived in NA, but that's for utility reasons more than anything else.   I could care less how fast it'd goes up and down the road.

2-wheels, on the other hand -- I hate the fact that ABS and traction control is slowly making its way into that world... 

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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #205 on: August 10, 2010, 08:08:30 PM »
My point is that in 1988 the MR-2, Supra, Corolla, Tercel, the pickup, and the Camry sedan are all smaller than this car (not to mention all the kei cars they didn't sell in the US). It isn't "mini" just because your friends are huge.

You do realize, the camry sedan and camry wagon are like the same length, and the wagon looks bigger because the trunk portion is part of the rest of the car?  It might be like, 6-12" longer, MAYBE.  but its still retarded and tiny. 

and, my 70 dodge dart with a 318 in it is faster than everyones modern cars.
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #206 on: August 10, 2010, 09:26:16 PM »
Yes, I do understand the difference between a wagon and a sedan. I'm not saying your car is huge, I'm just saying that since it was one of the longest, of not the longest, Toyota sold in the US that year, it isn't "mini". Park that thing next to an 88 MR2 and you'll see what "mini" is. In the grand scheme of cars, its about right in the middle. If you don't see it this way, then you must live somewhere where your perception has been skewed from everyone driving giant-ass vehicles like...Ohio...or Michigan.

Termis: the reason the Honda van is quicker than the two sports cars is mostly the power. Also, the tires. They were using period correct tires on the old cars, which is a huge limitation. There is also the question of theoretical potential. If all three vehicles were allowed $3000 in modifications, I think the two cars would probably get much quicker, whereas the van is probably closer to its maximum in stock form. A 356 with modern day shock technology and race rubber would be fantastic. The power could be doubled and still be usable, where the van...I don't think the chassis could handle much more power than it already has.

I too don't get the whole "fast truck" thing. All trucks are slow. Some trucks are faster than others, but they are all slower than a car with the same engine, but turn/stop much worse and burn more fuel. There is a reason why none of the people in the NBA weigh 350 lbs. I have a 93 Chevy sitting in the back yard that I fire up four or five times a year when I want to go get a Xmas tree or move my tool box. That's all I need it for. The Miata is my daily driver and autocross/track day car. The Jetta is for longer trips, or when the dogs need to come with.
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #207 on: August 11, 2010, 03:57:15 AM »
What do you drive anyway? a Bugatti Veyron?


Yes; a Super Sport, in fact.

If you like it that'sgreat...but the internet dick waving isn't doing anything for ya.  It may be your fav vehicle of all time, but taking offense to others not being OMG over a 33 year old vanilla pickup...does it really matter?


Exactly; if you're gonna go all Fast and Furious on us, at least have the numbers to back it up.



One of my favorite magazines did a performance test with an XKE and 356 versus a Odyssey minivan...the minivan ripped them both to shreds. Its an interesting read.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/


That was quite entertaining; thanks for sharing.



You do realize, the camry sedan and camry wagon are like the same length, and the wagon looks bigger because the trunk portion is part of the rest of the car?  It might be like, 6-12" longer, MAYBE.  but its still retarded and tiny. 


It's small in comparison to full size cars but big compared to A and B segment cars.  Insisting that it's tiny (as an absolute) makes about as much sense as me asserting that an International CTX is small, just because it's not as big as a Cat 797F.
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #208 on: August 11, 2010, 07:47:29 AM »
My car dynoed at 114 at the wheels!  Fast and furious has got nothing on me!  Heheh
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Re: What do you drive…
« Reply #209 on: August 11, 2010, 08:56:05 AM »
One of my favorite magazines did a performance test with an XKE and 356 versus a Odyssey minivan...the minivan ripped them both to shreds. Its an interesting read.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/soccer-moms-revenge/

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