Tokimeki Memorial has a Sidearms/Soldier Blade style minigame.

[Necromancer]

That's awesome termis, but unfortunately my Duo hates CDRs, so this lame lemur has to stick to M.E. 

[shubibiman]

Thanks a lot, Termis. You're the s...t!

[termis]

Cool, good to know that other people will get usage out of the file.

Anyway, I actually cleaned up the save data file a bit (got rid of the unnecessary KO Seiki save file), and even wrote up a tiny readme.txt, and zipped it up to a small 35k file.

http://www.savefile.com/files/1568065

Once again, it'll be gone after 30 days of inactivity, so for anyone who wants to try out Force Gear on a real system sooner or later, grab it before it's gone.

yeah..thousands of japanese peopl for sure but nearly non uf us

Yeah, after reading on some review that there were slightly different minigames amongst the 4 different PCE revisions, I looked through some Japanese sites by searching the word "Force Gear" to make sure that this was on all the versions (However, the Japanese wikipedia faq site says that there were only minor bug fixes between versions, so I'm not sure if the minigames were actually different at all... And I have no intention of trying out all 4 editions  ).  And by the search results, they definitely know about this game.  It just didn't help that this game didn't appeal to westerners, as it'd be mostly random icon clicking and seeing numbers go up & down to non-Japanese readers.  And those who previously reviewed it in English (even ones that were the pretty thorough like hardcoregaming 101's review) didn't mention anything about Force Gear.

That's awesome termis, but unfortunately my Duo hates CDRs, so this lame lemur has to stick to M.E. 

Those silver-backed CDRs seem to work better than others according to some, right?

[Necromancer]

Those silver-backed CDRs seem to work better than others according to some, right?

Usually yes, but not for my finicky bitch.  I've tried dozens and dozens of different discs in varying brands and colors, and it hates 'em all.  It either won't work at all or will park the laser in no man's land after a short while.  Oh well, it just gives me a good reason to buy more games. 

[ccovell]

If you can't use a CDR in your Duo, but have a PCE flash card, you could use my PCE BRAM Tool ROM to alter your Tokimeki Memorial save file to match Termis'.

[SignOfZeta]

not sure if the minigames were actually different at all... And I have no intention of trying out all 4 editions  ).  And by the search results, they definitely know about this game.  It just didn't help that this game didn't appeal to westerners, as it'd be mostly random icon clicking and seeing numbers go up & down to non-Japanese readers.  And those who previously reviewed it in English (even ones that were the pretty thorough like hardcoregaming 101's review) didn't mention anything about Force Gear.

Tokimeki actually was kind of well known with import gamers in the mid 90s, but everyone I know, including me, played it on SS or PS. Its not really that hard to get into as a gaijin compared to other chick sims.

I really don't think that the later ports to other systems had Force Gear in it. I don't have any reason to think this other than the fact that it just looks so PC Engine-y that I'm assuming they substituted it for something else. It probably was an abandoned PCE project that just got thrown in there for the hell of it.

[termis]

I really don't think that the later ports to other systems had Force Gear in it. I don't have any reason to think this other than the fact that it just looks so PC Engine-y that I'm assuming they substituted it for something else. It probably was an abandoned PCE project that just got thrown in there for the hell of it.

Yeah, I'm sure I've seen TwinBee minigames in other versions, but I didn't think Force Gear was in the other ports either.  I was just more concerned with Force Gear possibly not being in one of the 4 different _PCE_ prints.

[shubibiman]

Thanks to Termis and Chris for all that cool stuff
Chris>I could not make out how to use your program  :oops:

[Necromancer]

If you can't use a CDR in your Duo, but have a PCE flash card, you could use my PCE BRAM Tool ROM to alter your Tokimeki Memorial save file to match Termis'.

Thanks for that Mr. Covell; I'll play around with it this weekend and see if I can get 'er working.

[shubibiman]

Just used the ISO way and it works! SO cool!

[termis]

If you want to use Chris' BRAM editor, here's the actual PCE save data you can use & refer to. This way you don't have to try digging it out from the iso.

[Bonknuts]

Some hacking info on the game:

(From the title screen)

 Ram $3326: 00= loop, 01= game start, $02-7f= reset, $80 = Twin bee game, $81-8f= Force Gear, $90-ff= some strange message with a pic of a boy sitting in a spot light.

 Ram $3323: 00=null, 01 = menu option 1, 02= menu option 2, 03= some sort of debug screen

 Update: I isolated both games and saved them, but it looks like they can't be put into a hucard format. They write to ram that the hucard format doesn't not have (some self modifying code).

[ParanoiaDragon]

Some hacking info on the game:

(From the title screen)

 Ram $3326: 00= loop, 01= game start, $02-7f= reset, $80 = Twin bee game, $81-8f= Force Gear, $90-ff= some strange message with a pic of a boy sitting in a spot light.

 Ram $3323: 00=null, 01 = menu option 1, 02= menu option 2, 03= some sort of debug screen

 Update: I isolated both games and saved them, but it looks like they can't be put into a hucard format. They write to ram that the hucard format doesn't not have (some self modifying code).

Can they atleast be turned into seperate iso's??  Maybe even make complete games of them, BWA HAHA!

[geepee16]

WOW.  the surprises don't stop, do they? first the ZENKI news and now this.  i joined the TML in 96 and there were LOTS of hard core members there who played these types of games and no one has ever mentioned it.   and....hold on, i have an idea...  okay, i have this VERY cool book that has lots of codes for almost every game in the pce/pc-fx/sgx libraries through '96.  i have s l o w l y been translating and testing for an eventual dump onto the much neglected pcecp.com.  i've been working on this for a few months and brought it with me this summer.  i am looking at the tokimeki memorial file and, among many other secrets (most meaningless unless you play the game) is something that says (hasty translation here):

"Full Power Extra Game-

First, in the second year of the Culture Festival, go to the computer lab and play "Twin Bee Returns".  Then, while playing, hit pause, Up Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, II, I in that order.  The area around the "jigi" (this may refer to the austomatic probes that accompany you ?) turn white indicating the code was successfully entered.  Now you will be able to play at full power."

There is no mention here of the other game which means the publishers discovered later and put it in the '97 edition or didn't know about it. 

[Bonknuts]

I look forward to you updating pcecp.com