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Medic_wheat

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13920 on: May 22, 2015, 12:22:06 PM »
Dude I think you just got a lot of people wanting to order some import fees be dambed lol

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13921 on: May 22, 2015, 04:27:31 PM »
Well I got tired of messing around with scalers and 20 year old CRTs that tend to have random issues.  So I said f*ck it and bought this beast.  Truly brand new (manufactured in 2014) true flat auto trisync arcade monitor.  Very expensive I'll admit, but I couldn't be more pleased.



Connections Box


Testing with the X68000

31khz


24khz


15khz





Went to check out the website, and also saw this...I want it.

https://sv35.wadax.ne.jp/~mobile-accessory-net/104_1476.html
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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13922 on: May 22, 2015, 05:24:55 PM »
Well I got tired of messing around with scalers and 20 year old CRTs that tend to have random issues.  So I said f*ck it and bought this beast.  Truly brand new (manufactured in 2014) true flat auto trisync arcade monitor.  Very expensive I'll admit, but I couldn't be more pleased.

Nice! May the love of CRT never die. ;)

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13923 on: May 22, 2015, 07:02:45 PM »
Well I got tired of messing around with scalers and 20 year old CRTs that tend to have random issues.  So I said f*ck it and bought this beast.  Truly brand new (manufactured in 2014) true flat auto trisync arcade monitor.  Very expensive I'll admit, but I couldn't be more pleased.



Connections Box


Testing with the X68000

31khz


24khz


15khz



Ok, I'm going to ask, how much did you get this for? And if you were to import it via slow boat from china how much? lol

SamIAm

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13924 on: May 22, 2015, 08:46:07 PM »
I'm guessing it's this:

http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d165889512

Hey SuperDeadite, I would love to see some shots of screens from the 240p test suite on that thing. The checkerboard pattern is maybe the most stressful, and the color bleed check is really good to see as well. The backlit zone test is maybe the best to use to check the corners for convergence accuracy as well.

I believe that the Sony KV-29DX650, which was only ever released in Japan in 2003, is the best consumer level gaming CRT ever released. It doesn't do 24khz or VGA, but it's got an RGB input, and it does really well at those tests. It does not do perfectly, however, and I would love to see how that thing stacks up. If it aces those tests, I just might try and get one.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2015, 09:12:32 PM by SamIAm »

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13925 on: May 23, 2015, 12:52:17 AM »
I'm guessing it's this:

http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d165889512

Hey SuperDeadite, I would love to see some shots of screens from the 240p test suite on that thing. The checkerboard pattern is maybe the most stressful, and the color bleed check is really good to see as well. The backlit zone test is maybe the best to use to check the corners for convergence accuracy as well.

I believe that the Sony KV-29DX650, which was only ever released in Japan in 2003, is the best consumer level gaming CRT ever released. It doesn't do 24khz or VGA, but it's got an RGB input, and it does really well at those tests. It does not do perfectly, however, and I would love to see how that thing stacks up. If it aces those tests, I just might try and get one.


Yes it's one of those, but if you go through his website and not yahoo, it's a bit cheaper, and he also will give you a another discount if you buy the TwinSync as well.  The yahoo auctions are more like advertisements then anything else.

As for the best CRT, that's a difficult question.  Some people really love the super thick scanlines on Nanao's and Sonys.  This actually doesn't have those, in 15khz mode it looks a lot more like a classic dual-sync arcade monitor.

As for myself, I adore the X68000 and FM Towns computers, these need to have a tri-sync monitor for 100% compatibility.  Some X68000 games actually use 31khz for menus and 15khz during the gameplay, switching back and forth.  So it's tri-sync, or XPC-4.

I also love my SuperCassetteVision which will not work on a Sony TV without a buffer which nobody makes anymore.  (Read Tokyo RGB Hospice for more info).  And I have arcade boards like Xexex, which don't work on Sonys either (picture just rolls and rolls)

For my interests, this monitor with the TwinSync is simply ideal.   In the end it really comes down to what you actually want to play.  I'm happy to try this test thing though if you could supply some links.
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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13926 on: May 23, 2015, 03:01:35 AM »
If you have a flashcard for any number of systems, or even if you just own a Mega CD, you can run one of these:

http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/240p_test_suite
(scroll down for links to downloads)

Like I mentioned, the "checkerboard" pattern is probably the meanest one. If your set can do that perfectly, that would be amazing. The "color bleed check" pattern, and the "backlit zone test" moved via d-pad from the center to the corners, are also essential. Of course, any other patterns you want to check would be interesting as well.

The Sony KV-29DX650 actually doesn't have scanlines at all - it's an HDCRT. Yet while other HDCRT sets seem to convert 240p directly to 1080i (which is still much better than LCDs that do some crazy multi-stage conversion and throw away half the video content), this actually does true 240p. If you're curious, I'll take some shots.

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13927 on: May 23, 2015, 11:41:17 AM »
I bought an iPhone 6

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13928 on: May 23, 2015, 11:43:34 AM »
I bought an iPhone 6

But was it a 6+?

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13929 on: May 23, 2015, 11:55:33 AM »
If you have a flashcard for any number of systems, or even if you just own a Mega CD, you can run one of these:

http://junkerhq.net/xrgb/index.php/240p_test_suite
(scroll down for links to downloads)

Like I mentioned, the "checkerboard" pattern is probably the meanest one. If your set can do that perfectly, that would be amazing. The "color bleed check" pattern, and the "backlit zone test" moved via d-pad from the center to the corners, are also essential. Of course, any other patterns you want to check would be interesting as well.

The Sony KV-29DX650 actually doesn't have scanlines at all - it's an HDCRT. Yet while other HDCRT sets seem to convert 240p directly to 1080i (which is still much better than LCDs that do some crazy multi-stage conversion and throw away half the video content), this actually does true 240p. If you're curious, I'll take some shots.


Sadly the only flash cart I own is for the MSX lol.  I have an RGB modded LaserActive for both SCD and PCE use.  Sorry but I will refuse to run CDRs in my LA.  So I have no way of doing this really.
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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13930 on: May 23, 2015, 12:33:05 PM »
Can any of your old PCs display .bmp files?

Here are four 256 color .bmp files of the same test screens, which are each sub-100KB. If you want them in a different format, I'll make them.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32377930/tests.zip

(The "converge" one I made myself.)

I took just a couple shots of my TV so you can see what to look for. I used an RGB modded Supergrafx and the 240p test suite.

The backlit zone test - both shots are of a single small white square against an all black background. The first one has the square in the center of the screen, while the second one has it in the top right corner. The exaggerated red and blue around the edges you see in the corner shot are a problem of convergence. Basically, the three light guns in the CRT can aim at a center pixel more uniformly than they can at a corner pixel. If I put the white square in the top left corner, the problem roughly reverses. This has nothing to do with signal quality.

Center:

(This looks much nicer when you're not zoomed in so closely)

Top right corner:

(This only happens in the very corner of the screen. If I move it an inch toward the center, the effect nearly disappears)

Next, here's the checkerboard pattern. The first pic is of the center, while the second is of the center-right side.

Center:


Center-right, from slightly further away and at a slight angle:


Again, this is mostly a matter of the light guns being able to aim at the center of the screen more accurately than the sides.

I'd actually like to take a shot of a second TV I have, because it freaks out with this pattern even in component video (it doesn't have an RGB input). It actually tints the whole thing red, and although you can make out the black and white dots, it's not very uniform across the screen.

If you try and display this with a composite signal, or even an s-video signal under less than ideal circumstances, it's a mess. If your TV itself is not so good, it's a mess. I actually have a much cheaper Sony from around the same period that also has an RGB input, and it's still pretty bad. Truly, the checkerboard pattern is the toughest one for a setup to pass.

I can take shots of the color bleed test later, but it does pretty well with those. Only the blue is a little less sharp than the others.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2015, 03:44:40 PM by SamIAm »

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13931 on: May 26, 2015, 05:23:41 AM »
So there was a bundle of Genesis games that had been languishing on CL for a couple months at this point at a crazy price so I decided to send them an email and try to negotiate.  Lo and behold they were happy to wheel and deal and I got all these at a really solid price, not thrift store pricing, but still quite below retail for the entire lot combined. 


2015-05-22 Genesis Finds by xelement5x, on Flickr

All but Bubsy are complete and many have extra promo bits.  There are a couple common dupes but I am super happy to finally have Hellfire and Steel Empire in my library.

1) Game Genie Video Game Enhancer: Cartridge only
2) Hellfire: Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual, Warranty Card
3) Steel Empire: : Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual
4) NBA JAM: Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual, Warranty Card, Video Game Blockbuster Promo Poster
5) Sonic The Hedgehog 2: Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual
6) Thunder Force III: Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual
7) Super Baseball 2020: : Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual, Electronic Art/Get a Clue Promo Poster
8) Virtual Pinball: Cartridge, Case, Instruction Manual
9) Bubsy II: Cartridge, Case
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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13932 on: May 26, 2015, 08:21:05 AM »
I only see three that interest me and they are all shooters. Lol.

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13933 on: May 26, 2015, 08:41:48 AM »
I only see three that interest me and they are all shooters. Lol.
I've been wondering about Hellfire and hadn't even heard of Steel Empire. Definitely would have picked up the lot for those two. Thunderforce 3 is tops. Sonic 2 and NBA Jam are pretty awesome, too, though.

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Re: teh "what did you buy today"-thread
« Reply #13934 on: May 26, 2015, 09:10:13 AM »
I only see three that interest me and they are all shooters. Lol.
I've been wondering about Hellfire and hadn't even heard of Steel Empire. Definitely would have picked up the lot for those two. Thunderforce 3 is tops. Sonic 2 and NBA Jam are pretty awesome, too, though.

Yeah, Hellfire was fun for a bit, but Steel Empire was the one I played the most so far.  A bit less punishing, and a fun steampunky feeling to it. I guess it originally started development as an adaptation of the anime movie Laputa: Castle in the Sky, but lost the licenses so they just made it into what it is now. 
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