Hardest system to find complete games for?

[Peluso8]

Is the TG-16/CD/PCE, etc, the hardest system to find complete games for?

I collect for a lot of systems and I have never had so much trouble finding games CIB. Finding the outer box for even dirt common games is relatively harder than other systems.

When I actually find a store that sell TG-16 games, probably less that 5% of them have the outer boxes.

I don't know what the percentage would be for E-Bay, but I would imagine its around the same.

[nat]

Lots of people threw those boxes away BITD because the games had the jewel case with manual, etc. With other systems, like NES and SNES, the only real way to store the manual was to keep the original box around since the carts themselves had no other container. I think that's why you can find lots of people who kept NES and SNES boxes, for example, and comparably fewer who kept TG-16 boxes.

Speaking from my own personal experience, all the games I got pre-1994 I threw the boxes away. I started keeping the boxes in 94/95 when I realized the US stuff was going to start to get hard to find sooner or later. I bought Bonk 3 in '94 from TZD and I actually cut out the back of the box to use as a back insert for a home-made jewel case for the game.

[Peluso8]

Lots of people threw those boxes away BITD because the games had the jewel case with manual, etc. With other systems, like NES and SNES, the only real way to store the manual was to keep the original box around since the carts themselves had no other container. I think that's why you can find lots of people who kept NES and SNES boxes, for example, and comparably fewer who kept TG-16 boxes.

Would that mean that the later releases, that didn't have the jewel cases, would have boxes that are easier to find?

Speaking from my own personal experience, all the games I got pre-1994 I threw the boxes away. I started keeping the boxes in 94/95 when I realized the US stuff was going to start to get hard to find sooner or later. I bought Bonk 3 in '94 from TZD and I actually cut out the back of the box to use as a back insert for a home-made jewel case for the game.

Ouch.

[geddon_jt]

Would that mean that the later releases, that didn't have the jewel cases, would have boxes that are easier to find?

I wish that were the case, but no.

This is, without a doubt, the BIGGEST pain in the butt about Turbo collecting. As if some of the games weren't hard enough to find to begin with, finding them with the box (and not crushed and beat to hell) is a different story altogether.
The worst part is, a lot of people selling games dont even realize they came in cardboard boxes! So, all the time people advertise the games as "complete," even though they really only have the manual and jewel case.

[Tatsujin]

try to find comlete minty mf towns marty games. then you know what's pricey and hard to find

[geepee16]

the turbo is very hard to collect for if you are talking about the US TG16 stuff because those boxes were pretty flimsy. the duo days were easier cause you didn't have anything more to worry about than the jewel case.  the japanese stuff is a REAL pain in the butt if you care about spine cards. 

the european dreamcast is also hard only because those cases - beautiful as they are - break SO easily.

the marty is pretty tough too but nothing may beat the bandai pippin because it was just so rare.  you can put the laser active software into that category as well.

the most expensive collection to complete is probably the neo geo cart library or the famicom (only because of its sheer volume).  the pce one would cost a pretty penny but not as much as the neo would.

[DreamTR]

I disagree. I know more people with CIB Turbo Grafx collections including outer boxes and all the Super CD releases than CIB NES and SNES collections. There are 7 times as many games for each of those systems, and some games like Stadium Events just don't pop up often with a box ever. I mean less than 5 times I have ever seen a boxed Stadium Events on ebay for NES, and that's pushing it.

I would say Game Boy, Game Gear, Colecovision, and Atari 2600 are the roughest to collect CIB games for. Even if you have money, some of those still never show up.

[Black Tiger]

I disagree. I know more people with CIB Turbo Grafx collections including outer boxes and all the Super CD releases than CIB NES and SNES collections. There are 7 times as many games for each of those systems, and some games like Stadium Events just don't pop up often with a box ever. I mean less than 5 times I have ever seen a boxed Stadium Events on ebay for NES, and that's pushing it.

I would say Game Boy, Game Gear, Colecovision, and Atari 2600 are the roughest to collect CIB games for. Even if you have money, some of those still never show up.

If you're judging "finding" and "collecting" as 'collection completing', then sure anything with a large catalogue would be harder. Either way, collection-completing-wise, all it takes is a single impossible-to-find-complete title to make it technically "the hardest".

But if we're talking "Hardest system to find complete games for", then any console with 7 times as many games for it will be way easier to find complete games for. There are less than 150 TG-16 HuCard and CD games, but how hard do you think it would be to find 150+ complete NES or Genesis games?

At least half of the TG-16 HuCards released can be easily found for sale in new/sealed condition. There seem to be very few incomplete jewel-case-only TG-16 CD games in the world and most of the CD games that came with boxes aren't hard to find at least complete, with many regularly around that as new/sealed.

[Peluso8]

I disagree. I know more people with CIB Turbo Grafx collections including outer boxes and all the Super CD releases than CIB NES and SNES collections. There are 7 times as many games for each of those systems, and some games like Stadium Events just don't pop up often with a box ever. I mean less than 5 times I have ever seen a boxed Stadium Events on ebay for NES, and that's pushing it.

I don't think Stadium Events is a fair comparison. The game was pulled off of the shelves very early in its release and is probably the rarest game that was available in stores (not by mail order or special promotion or contest, etc).

I wasn't talking about picking a particular game and saying that it is impossible to find complete, I was talking about the games in general.

[Black Tiger]

Try finding a mint complete PC Cocoron.

Or for that matter a complete with spine copy of Space Fantasy Zone...

[MissaFX]

Is the TG-16/CD/PCE, etc, the hardest system to find complete games for?

I am gonna say it is a hard race between the Marty, the Pippin and the Laseractive.  Now finding USA Turbo games with the box can also be expensive and hard to find, but I am pretty sure they are easier to find than the first three I listed.

[SignOfZeta]

If by "complete" you mean the outer box then yeah, its hard. Why would anyone keep that? Its clearly meant to be tossed. I consider "complete" in the case of TG-16 stuff to be the jewel case and everything that goes inside of that, and in that case I'd say that the TG-16 and PCE are the easiest systems to find complete software for. Loose TG-16 and PCE CDs and HuCards are pretty uncommon.

Screw the box. Its useless.

[SignOfZeta]

Is the TG-16/CD/PCE, etc, the hardest system to find complete games for?

I am gonna say it is a hard race between the Marty, the Pippin and the Laseractive.  Now finding USA Turbo games with the box can also be expensive and hard to find, but I am pretty sure they are easier to find than the first three I listed.

Wait, where are you buying loose LaserActive games? I'm pretty sure I've never seen a loose LA game in my life.

[MissaFX]

Wait, where are you buying loose LaserActive games? I'm pretty sure I've never seen a loose LA game in my life.

I'm not talking about loose, I am talking about simply being able to find a copy of a specific game you want in the first place.  It can be damn hard to find ANYONE selling some titles.

[Sparky]

I always had a hard time finding TG16 Hu-card games in general when i started collecting years ago especially complete with the box, so i just gave up on the box and went for card, case, sleeve and manual, easier to display and store as well. The CD/Duo games are toughies to.

Of my complete collection of the US TG16 hucards (minus most boxes) surprising i have never found one in the wild, loose or complete!!!
Maybe with only Radio Shack selling TG16 stuff back in the day there seems to be not much on my Canadian home land to be found