She's joined us in the outside world

[Keranu]

Amazing how people believe the natural way of doing things is wrong.

They even wanted to vaccinate her...WHAT THE f*ck, YOU DON'T VACCINATE A NEWBORN LESS THAN FOUR HOURS OLD!

Jeez, don't people normally vaccinate babies when they are around 4 months old? Regardless, I don't think anyone should be vaccinated period, much so a baby.

[Joe Redifer]

A baby's immune system needs time to develop before those kinds of things are generally applied.  You've got to give medical science some credit, though.  Many vaccines are good and do work.  Granted, the newborn baby probably doesn't need a vaccine for cervical cancer just yet.  Some people are paranoid and think that the government injects robotic mechanisms to control you when they decide to take over.

That being said, I NEVER get Flu shots and I never get the Flu.

[ceti alpha]

Some people are paranoid and think that the government injects robotic mechanisms to control you when they decide to take over.

...I can't believe that...I mean it can't be true...could it? 

[nectarsis]

No your safe up there ceti.  All the nanomachines in Canada use the metric system, and are therefore inferior, and self destruct.

[nodtveidt]

They will NEVER come near either of my daughters with a shot of Gardasil. I know way too much about the scam that is Gardasil. It must be nice to have enough money to create a product and then create a scare to sell it. But then again, Merck has been doing that for decades.

Got another update from the wife tonight. Apparently, the long hospital stay is due to a blood culture test...it takes 3 days to complete and they won't release her until the results are conclusive. Of course, they're going to find out what we already know...our baby girl is in perfect health. All conclusive tests thus far have checked out 100%. This is a waste of our time and their time.

[ParanoiaDragon]

Good grief, what a world we live in

[Joe Redifer]

Interesting

[Windancer]

OMG Old Rover! Have you thought about getting a lawyer on this situation? Holy Cow! Whats this world comming too. Are the police that came to your house Fraggin idiots! Im mad for you bro. My god! My son had to be delivered emergency C-section cause he tried to come 2 months early. They gave my wife a shot called Tributiline I swear to god if I would have known the side effects of that shot I would told them to screw off! One of the side effects is autism. Well guess what my son was diagnosed with mild autism and asbergers when he was young and had alot of issues. He has grown into a fine young man though! But I will tell you I would have never agreed to that shot had I known! I hope you can do something about this. I am so mad right now! God I hope the best for you Old Rover! Dont trust those bastards! They are in it for the stinkin money!

Update:
Some motherf*cker called 911, claiming a "domestic dispute". We were then essentially ripped out of our home and forced into the hospital, where they did all kinds of things against our wishes, such as shooting our little girl up with antibiotics. Social services got involved, and now our little girl is stuck in the hospital for five days while those fat, slow asshats at social services get off their fat asses and clear the case. They claimed it was an "unusual case"...yeah, BULLSHIT. Someone just got their panties in a bunch because we birthed without the "help" of the hospital, so now they're going to try to get their money's worth at our daughter's expense. The pediatrician on staff at the time refused to allow my wife to breastfeed our daughter, so my wife went to the supervisor and got that crap straightened out REAL quick. Fortunately, virtually all of the nurses at the hospital are on our side, and since we know our rights and are far more educated that everyone else who passes through that death trap they call a hospital, they're not going to mess with us. The sucky part though is that because social services is involved, we can't remove our daughter from the hospital just yet. We CAN, but it will result in "medical insubordination", and we know damn well that social services will make up a completely bullshit story and try to take our daughter away from us. So we're doing our best to minimize the damage, but we know that our daughter will never be the same as she was supposed to be thanks to the f*cking antibiotics. They even wanted to vaccinate her...WHAT THE f*ck, YOU DON'T VACCINATE A NEWBORN LESS THAN FOUR HOURS OLD! Do these f*cking idiots even know how vaccines work?! Obviously not! And they obviously don't know jack shit about breastfeeding, or else they'd know to NOT give the baby antibiotics. They claim that births outside of the hospital are "unsterile" births...umm hello dumb shit, NO birth is sterile, and should never BE sterile! Part of the birthing process is to pass along bacteria to the baby so the gut can be filled with bacteria properly...antibiotics kill all of these bacteria, making the baby's digestive system very weak...oh yes that's right, perfect for forcing high-grade, VERY EXPENSIVE baby formula into the child. Well f*ck if I'm gonna let them do that.

[Joe Redifer]

One of the side effects is autism.

Geez!!  That's a hell of a "side effect".  Shouldn't they list the side effects before they administer the medicine?  Drug companies are required to on their TV commercials and magazine ads, I would think someone about to get the shot should be made aware as well.

[Keranu]

It's debated that the mercury in vaccines causes autism too.

[Turbo D]

Wow, you would think they would warn you about something like that. 

[termis]

Sounds like one big-ass hassle for sure.  Hope it all works out soon for you, the Mrs., and the little one.

[Sparky]

a special moment taking right away from ya like that, dont even know what to say, hope you guys are back home soon
Did they say roughly what day you can get the hell out of there?

[Sinistron]

Sorry I'm late to the thread man- but congrats of course and that's some crazy shit going on there.  Sounds like Crazy Hospital isn't just a PC-Engine SCD game..

[nodtveidt]

Thanks for the encouragement everyone, my wife and I appreciate it. We're fighting the good fight here, and we're not so easy to shut up or put away.

The chemical additives and heavy metals used to preserve vaccines cause all kinds of health problems, and yes, autism is one of them. However, even if you can prove that a vaccine has caused your child damage, YOU CANNOT SUE THE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY THAT MANUFACTURED IT. Federal law prohibits lawsuits against pharmaceutical companies for vaccines. There's apparently some kind of fund you can get from the federal government, but again, it requires you to prove that the vaccine has caused the damage to your child. And by the way...they ARE required, by FEDERAL LAW, to tell you about the possible side effects of vaccines...however, people are not generally aware of this, so the doctors conveniently skip over this part. Well of course they do...they make a lot of money shooting up babies and toddlers with destructive heavy metals and chemicals...then they make far more money later in their life treating the symptoms of all the diseases and syndromes the vaccines cause. Follow the money trail.

The soonest time Luna could possibly be released is Thursday morning, because of the blood culture test. They won't release her without conclusive results on that test, which is complete bullshit. Now, ALL of the nurses on staff are behind us and think that this whole case is utterly disgusting. My wife's become somewhat of a celebrity in the hospital...EVERYONE'S talking about the mother who gave birth at home with no one besides her husband. But then there's the problem of social services...one of the people at social services is trying to expedite the case since there's really no case in the first place.

So, summary: The hospital stay is completely unnecessary, social services didn't need to get involved, and our neighborhood is likely to turn into a battlefield once wifey brings Luna home. All because some nosy, imposing motherf*cker couldn't mind their own f*cking business. Getting a lawyer is just a small piece of the gigantic pie that will be served hot once she's home.