problem with a member here attempting to profit

[quoth09]

It is of my understanding that this community frowns upon people buying games for said price, then immediately trying to profit off of said item by reselling for a higher value without the buyer knowing that they are trying to do that. I recently ran across this with a member here attempting to get almost double out of a game from me that they just purchased here not even 2-3 weeks ago. Said member also played dumb with me prior to the offer, acting like they didn't even know the game's title before. I don't really appreciate it being done to me, and given that another member of this site recently got caught doing the same thing, and the reaction to that, I think it's fair to say that other members here should know about this one.

I can understand that possibly this person is trying to make money before they leave, but we are all supposed to be friends here, not trying to take advantage of each other regardless of the situation. I'm just kinda like whatever about it personally in this specific incident, but it's one of those things that if it was any other day I would possibly be pissed off. I have other things to worry about than this right now is why. I also won't be around for about another week, so if anyone has anything to say, they can sort it out between themselves.

Either way, I wouldn't be bringing this up if I didn't have almost 100% proof, and maybe I'm wrong, but it's just too fishy, and I was told by 2 other members here to go ahead and post this, so here it is.


Member in question is Atr3yu, and the game in question is New Adventure Island for PC Engine.
EDIT:(cough cough) Takahashi Meijin No Shinboukenjima...since someone wants to be so picky about the title...New Adventure Island is not on PC Engine, only a game called Adventure Island, and that's not the same thing, it's Dragon's Curse)...anyway, onwards.


Atr3yu bought the game in this thread, from RR1980, on July 22nd:
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=5407.0

I get a message from Atr3yu during a transaction with him on Aug. 4th:
Well I will just pass then and I will get the manual from you. I don't need Bonk anymore as I got one in a lot from Ebay but is your Adventure Island complete. Also is it the one with the guy who throws axe's and have to get fruits?? Just asking as I bought an Adventure Island for PC Engine and it wasn't the game I was looking for as I was looking for New Adventure Island.


I reply back to him, not realizing at the time that Atr3yu was the one that purchased NAI on PC Engine in that thread, otherwise I would have been wondering why he didn't know this if he already had the game:
Manual is still available.
New Adventure Island was loose, it's sold now though, got payment for it yesterday.

But yeah, it is the one where you throw stuff and pick up fruits, ride skateboard, etc. real fun. The one on PC Engine is under it's JP name though; I forget the full name.

The title Adventure Island on PC engine is called Dragon's Curse over here in the US on Turbo.


I think I mentioned at some point in the Shoutbox that day or the day after that I missed out on RR1980's thread, because I would have wanted about half the games on there, including NAI for PCE.


I then receive this PM from atr3yu on August 6th:
Still looking for a copy of New Adveute Island for the PC Engine?? I have an extra that is complete except for the spine card. If so make me an offer as I had someone ask about it but I figured I would offer it to you first as you hooked me up.

I reply back:
?No spine card? Those didn't come with spine cards. No Hucards came with spines, only the labels on the early games that were attached the case.

Got photos of it? I may have found one a bit ago, all depends on how much yours is.

Let me know, thanks


Atr3yu replies back:
Well if no spine card then it is mint. No creases in the covers or scratches on the case. I don't have a camera ATM it is with the wife. As for a price make me an offer as I don't know what it's value it as I have seen it go for 60 on ebay in this shape but that is kinda high. I was thinking around 40 shipped but let me know as I am sure we can work something out.


So I'm thinking ok, I need to check prices and I will consider sending him an offer. The first place I go to look was RR1980's thread, because I remembered that he sold one in that thread. Damn, price is not listed, so I scroll down to see who got it...Atr3yu, or at least the message is there for it: https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=5407.msg95096#msg95096


Immediately curious, I contact RR1980 and ask how much he sold it for. I get a reply back of $20 plus shipping.

So I write back Atr3yu later that day, and I tell him $25 shipped, and make up an excuse that someone else is offering one for almost the same price.

I get a reply back from Atr3yu: Yea I am gonna have to pass but thanks anyway. I spent 30 on this one. It's ok I have a buyer for it already. Thanks anyway.

So I give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe he got it elsewhere, and the deal with RR1980 fell through, so I contact RR1980 again:
who did you sell that New Adventure Island too anyway? Atr3yu?
Let me know, thanks.


I get a reply back from RR1980:
haha yeah how did you know? is he trying to sell it to you now? hehe



I think that pretty much spells it out. Blatantly saying 40 or 60 at first to see what I would offer on it, then I end up offering him how much he paid for it + shipping, and he wants more than that.

I will let you discuss this among yourselves, as I'm sure the situation will remedy itself without my input.

Atr3yu, maybe you got the copy you are trying to sell me elsewhere, but the situation seemed just a little bit too fishy to me, and I wouldn't be trying to profit off of someone right after I got something on the same forums I got it from. You just don't do that here. If you want to do that stuff, take it to eBay. I'm sure that the other offender that did the same thing recently will be brought up as well.


Like I said, maybe I'm wrong, but it was mentioned by at least 2 members here that I make a thread about the situation.

[Windancer]

Yeah Maybe ebay would be the place to go for this kind of behavior. I think most people here are not in it for the money. They are more into collecting and trading at fair prices and as we know Ebay has  not so fair prices. However You can find a gem every once in a while on ebay. But if a person is looking to profit from this forum I don't think they can quite get away with it as most of us know what we are looking at or choosy in our purchases. Really it comes down to each their own if someone is willing to pay the high price that's up to them but I have found patients is a virtue when buying PCE games. If the guy wants to try this stuff that's up to him but there is an ethical issue here for that kind of buying and selling at this forum. So my suggestion is this. Just break off negotiations with someone like this and be patient for the next time the game comes up. that's all I can say

[Michael Helgeson]

Really this type of behavior is highly frowned upon. Count Smurfnutts tried something very similar on this forum With a Samurai Ghost he scored for 10 bucks on ebay,saying he nabbed it for way more at a local store and was trying to break even at some high up price. He got busted and had his balls nailed to a wooden post so to speak for trying to deceivingly profit off the community. Not only this,but the goal should be to try to treat fellow members here fairly and respectfully in deals,not to just wheel and deal all the time and constantly try for double profits or pit members against each other on "Best Offer" deals.

You wouldn't like it done to you,you shouldn't do it to others here. You wanna make killer profit,try your luck on ebay,not fellow members here. It saddens me to see this done,esp to a close friend by someone making a purchase from him and myself both...... Very distasteful Atr3yu..... Also,the game doesn't fetch that much on ebay either. Way off the mark there,it usually only gets $20-30 depending on who's buying. I nabbed mine for $15.00 myself.

[rolins]

When I sell items here I'm in it for money plain and simple, but I don't push my luck by trying to force ebay prices. I don't hold anything against Atr3yu for what he did, that kind of stuff happens alot. Just give him a second chance but if he makes the same mistake twice never do business again.

[Michael Helgeson]

When I sell items here I'm in it for money plain and simple, but I don't push my luck by trying to force ebay prices. I don't hold anything against Atr3yu for what he did, that kind of stuff happens alot. Just give him a second chance but if he makes the same mistake twice never do business again.

He aimed well above ebay prices with his exaggerated price quote lol.

[rolins]

When I sell items here I'm in it for money plain and simple, but I don't push my luck by trying to force ebay prices. I don't hold anything against Atr3yu for what he did, that kind of stuff happens alot. Just give him a second chance but if he makes the same mistake twice never do business again.

He aimed well above ebay prices with his exaggerated price quote lol.

Yeah $60 for NAI. 
Ebay had some good prices a few years back. I snagged a sealed NAI for $40 from DreamStarsJapan, but at the time he was known by another name. Good times.

[nectarsis]

$60 for the US version complete (with box) is nuts, but for the (PCE ver.  ).

Rolins is right, most people on here have sale/trade lists to profit from, but this buy x game for x$ than double/triple or more your asking price just a VERY SHORT time latter is in poor taste, and smacks of Ebay.

[Necromancer]

I don't have as many problems with someone trying to turn a profit (though it sucks when forum members are involved in both deals), as I do with them lying through their teeth about the circumstances.  I can't say that I'm surprised though; I didn't expect much from someone that makes his gaming money via theft of services.

[Sinistron]

I think this behavior sucks ass.  Angers me to no end.  Atreyu- even Falcor thinks you blow. 



I think you've done right in reporting this Quoth- and you've done it tastefully.  I personally would've castrated this f*cktart.

[Necromancer]

Falcor thinks you blow. 

No he doesn't - it clearly says 'suck'. 

[Sinistron]

same difference 

[Necromancer]

same difference 

Hell no!  Next time a lady goes down on you, ask her to literally blow you and then tell me it's the same thing. 

[Tatsujin]

Falcor thinks you blow. 

No he doesn't - it clearly says 'suck'. 

[MissaFX]

When I play MMOs I often corner part of the market, whatever that may be.  I use countless deceptive tactics which I am pretty sure a good deal of would be illegal in a real life market.  Atreyu's interaction with you Quoth would seem perfectly fine to me if it was a person I was dealing with in a MMO.  Every dealer has their own line and even though I know it is BS most of the time, it's not like I am gonna throw that detail in their face.

However I do agree that sales within this community are different.  Not that I have any problem at all with members profiting off each other.  I just think that if you are profiting off people here, it better be because you buy 500 hucards at a time and sell off the 300 you don't end up needing at extreemly reasonable if not low prices.  Or heck, if you have a connection to get origional sealed Sapphire games for 5 dollars each, why not sell them for 40 or 50?  As long as everyone comes out ahead, there's no reason not to make a few bucks.  Any time I see a member making profit here, I do expect their prices to be low.

However I also make sure myself to be extra fair to people as a buyer when I know the seller isn't profiting in terms of making sure every cent of paypal fees is paid for etc.  Someone who I feel is making a profit can fend for themselves when it comes to fees or paying for a mailer, etc.

[SignOfZeta]

I really don't give a shit about people doing this. Its slightly annoying that Atr3yu seems to post about nearly nothing but buying and selling, but its just an irritant. Its nothing major.