Risingstuff.com

[nectarsis]

thats funny because I've had an order in the works since like february with no word on whats going on.

We're basing it off Ark himself calling it an order.  More deflection using Mike to shield lack of communication for 4 months+.  What needs to stop is trying to use scapegoats for your mishandling things.  That didn't work on DP, doesn't seem to be going over well on Neo Geo..or your yahoojapan feedback.  Are all those things Mike's fault to?

[japanesepeso]

You know, my store is having the best year yet so far. And the majority of our clientelle is repeat customers. They must just be fools for punishment.

If you've got problems with orders you've made, state em. That's fine. In fact its better than fine because I can resolve problems. What I can"t do is resolve issues that don't exist.

Edit: This will be my last post on the subject. I don't want to see this turn into some unending flamefest.

[Sinistron]

Your store's having the best year yet so far- so you figure now's a fine time to make hollow e-lawyer threats to someone who hasn't spoken up on an issue involving you since last October?  You're either power hungry and deluded or you're stretching the truth a bit, no?

Regardless of all this- I never dealt with you guys because I knew exactly what ilk you guys were when I heard about that issue of you guys posting Nectar's and Wind's buyer's guide, erasing their credit like the two of you actually wrote it, and also deleting any mention of other stores and links and then making a tantrum about it when it was brought to light.  You guys've been a real piece of work since day one.  And Helgeson called your bluff didn't he?  You said yourself you had no real intention of suing anyone- so your whole act with him was a lie- the tactic speaks for itself and your character. 

A real hoot too- did you actually think Mike was gonna start shaking in his boots and issue a public apology for stuff that he was able to back up- and for other bits such as "it appeared that they were banking on and taking advantage of the fact people thought they were nice guys" which are clearly stated as an opinion and yet included in your hollow e-lawyer threat as "erroneous and false statements"? 

You banned Mike from your site- and you claim he was so bitter about it and stalked you and this that and the third- I talk to Mike every weekday- he mentioned it once for laughs back when it happened and hasn't mentioned it since.  His review of your store has been sitting on his site for some time.  Before this new issue that you started he hasn't communicated with you since last October on Digital Press concerning some other guy's beef with you.  So who's the one telling lies and slandering and stalking who? 

If this is your "best year so far" (man- that sounds so childish in this context)- then you should have sat back and counted your blessings instead of thinking yourself superhero enough to go kicking a hornet's nest- because I got news for you- you're no superhero and speaking for myself I've been very unimpressed with your character from jump street.

[nectarsis]

Sent to me earlier today by a member also sick of the ongoing crap (from shout obviously):


[Fri 11:34] <Sinistron> on another note arkie- would you mind detailing what went down with your rising stuff order to someone who you know doesn't quite care for you?  Was it actually an order?
[Fri 11:35] <Arkhan> havent heard back since.  they reply to my PMs about it every 3-4 weeks if im lucky and say theyre looking into it
[Fri 11:35] <Opethian> I was so close to byung that monitor from Rising Stuff but the guy doesnt respond to emails until the 3or or 4th one
[Fri 11:35] <chop5> cool snowkitty,i still need to gather some cash and send it to you
[Fri 11:35] <Arkhan> it was a special order of a ton of stuff.  i set money aside and was to pay for it after it arrived
[Fri 11:36] <Arkhan> yeah i ordered the stuff back in like feb
[Fri 11:36] <Arkhan> i just wont really hold my breath.  Hit-japan has the same stuff.  Im sure they will enjoy my like 1200$ purchases
[Fri 11:36] <chop5> ohhhh,i remember that now arkhan. was a long time ago


Sooooooooooo still gonna try and blow smoke up peoples ass's that it was just "stock for the store" and NOT a special order?  Or is Ark lying as well ? (seems specific enough your atypical "misunderstanding"  excuse you've used so many times won't work here...looks like your claims of everyone lying or "crazy" is falling apart).   Seems you can't even keep your lies straight anymore.  So you wanna come on with more BS excuses, and try and act like Mr. Innocent some more?   It's just digging your hole deeper, and deeper.  You  keep trying to make Mike, myself, and the others making claims out to be liars, or "crazy" as you stated last night.  Yet YOU send Mike a fake cease and desist order while PROVING what he says is true by your continued lies/backtracking.changing stories.   

You got all bitchy that I "betrayed" your friendship...now who the f*ck betrayed a "friend."  You lie/change stories/try to cover up your f*ck-ups  to everyone..including people that promoted the store (that led to sales/$ for YOU).  Yet it's ok to lie/deceive these very "friends" that have helped you in many ways...quit playing the victim, man up and quit the immature BS you've been pulling.  YOU LIED and shit on people that looked at you as a friend...and then have the nerve to bitch when it bites you in the ass?!?!   Your sad attempts at discrediting me due to "mike's your friend"...have nothing to do with it.   I dislike charlatans that act like they do no wrong.   You may deny whatever, but various things have already proven your lack of communication, lazy attitude, and you'd rather make excuses than admit faults.   

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[Emerald Rocker]

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[SignOfZeta]

Ok, seriously, chill out.

Is there anything material at stake here other than some Famicom kusoge being really late? I mean, does Rising Stuff owe someone $300 or anything like that? If not, then we should keep these things in perspective. RS isn't NCS or Amazon. They aren't full time, or probably even profitable. By and large, its just $3 games nobody even wants we are talking about.

I guess I'm just really patient since I've been ordering shit from Japan since Zeta Gundam was still on the air, and it used to take almost a year for shit to show up sometimes. I know that with the advent of the internet and EMS shipping there really isn't any excuse for months long delays, but it doesn't change the fact that we've become impatient little bitches because of it. So your game is three months late? Well, that does kind of suck, but you can wait. I mean, the thing is 25 years old for f*cks sake and you're not actually going to play it anyway, honestly.

Just be cool, man. The D Lite situation eventually solved itself, despite Mike's selfless "heroism" bullshit, and this stuff is far less serious, IMO.

[nectarsis]

Well seeing as it has opened a few peoples eyes to the lack of character, and general shady crap they claim (see above, DP,Neo Geo) then it's worth it.  Tough if you don't see it as a big deal..IGNORE the thread...is you post doing anything?  For someone that seems to have a pretty damn unhealthy obsession over Mike (who isn't here to defend himself...classy) You take any chance you get to bash/bring him up.  Less of a "big deal" than showing a shady company that blows sunshine and rainbows up peoples ass.  Funny you bring up D Lite..shit if Mike didn't start wheels moving, ceti's Duo may have been lost to the ages...no one else seemed to concerned.  Ironic as you seem to jump on how Mike acted here (and any others who don't like seeing BS on here..you're negative as hell  in a majority of your posts.  TG OVERPAYING idiots blah blah.... SSDD.  If this place sucks so bad, and a majority of the peeps are below you're holier than though GREATNESS  why do you stay?  You bitch as much or more than most..yet hate on others that supposedly do...hypocrite much?

[SignOfZeta]

I said my piece, you can continue being a total f*cking spaz now.

[nectarsis]

I said my piece, you can continue being a total f*cking spaz now.

Case in point.   

[Sinistron]

I said my piece, you can continue being a total f*cking spaz now.

Here's your chance Sunteam!  Report to moderator! Report to moderator!  Just kidding.  We can handle ourselves here- the brutish American troglodytes that we are.

Never mind that Zeta- that wasn't for you.

This is-

It is amusing that you get your piece in on page three- where you essentially not only AGREE with the posts regarding Rising's stupidity- "WTF, are they trying to be funny or something? I don't get it" but BEGIN a whole new thread of bitterness by blasting a former member who's no longer here to defend himself- "The guy is f*cking pathetic and needs help"- but then when posts follow further expounding on Rising's stupidity- on a thread entitled "Risingstuff.com"- that you ALREADY agreed with- that then it's time for everyone to chill out- Commander Zeta is at the helm and everyone should buckle down and enjoy the smooth sailing- and yeah pretty much what Nectar said- you telling people to chill is like Hitler saying all the world needs is a little more love.  You've officially been the sourest of all Sour Patch Kids as long as I've been here (with possible exception of Zeon who cries about everything- WTF is it with you "Z" guys?).  You retracted into your shell for a spell only due to constant shellacking courtesy of Mike- which makes your digs at him here now that he's no longer a member all the more laughable.  You strike me as one of these guys who never calculates his own actions into the equation- it's all outward perception- all Planet Zeta, everyday on every channel.  Must be bliss.

[ceti alpha]

Well seeing as it has opened a few peoples eyes to the lack of character, and general shady crap they claim (see above, DP,Neo Geo) then it's worth it.  Tough if you don't see it as a big deal..IGNORE the thread...is you post doing anything?  For someone that seems to have a pretty damn unhealthy obsession over Mike (who isn't here to defend himself...classy) You take any chance you get to bash/bring him up.  Less of a "big deal" than showing a shady company that blows sunshine and rainbows up peoples ass.  Funny you bring up D Lite..shit if Mike didn't start wheels moving, ceti's Duo may have been lost to the ages...no one else seemed to concerned.  Ironic as you seem to jump on how Mike acted here (and any others who don't like seeing BS on here..you're negative as hell  in a majority of your posts.  TG OVERPAYING idiots blah blah.... SSDD.  If this place sucks so bad, and a majority of the peeps are below you're holier than though GREATNESS  why do you stay?  You bitch as much or more than most..yet hate on others that supposedly do...hypocrite much?

I can pretty much guarantee that my Duo would be trapped in purgatory if Mike didn't kick up dust for me. I was pretty much brand new to the scene here and really appreciated that someone here was willing to stand up for me the way he did. I would have been pretty sour and discouraged if my Duo just disappeared without a trace. It basically showed me that this site is a "community", seeing as that is a key word in the title of this site.

[Sinistron]

Worthy of laughs, surely...


Hey Mike,
So I was out jogging today (great hobby, you should try it out some time to relieve all that stress) and mulling over what to do about this situation with you and it occurred to me: What do I really care what some jackass on the Internet thinks or says about my store? Kind of silly right? I mean, I do a decent job with my company and I can definitely say I please the greater majority of customers. So why would I need any further validation than their continued patronage?
What I realized would be the greater pleasure in life is never having to hear from you again. I mean, I don't even read all of these text walls you type up. They're just too long and straying from any real point for me (sorry).
 
So with that, I'm gonna say goodbye. Wish you the best in persuing justice against pretty much everyone you've ever bought from. Hope it all works out for you.
- Alex


So there we go.  I'm going to make the leap here and draw several conclusions-

1) Stressed out?  be like Alex- jog.  It won't stop you from e-lawyering those who try to warn others on your documented tactics even though you're having the best business year EVA- but it'll surely do something.

2) if you have any criticism- even if just and informed- of Alex's store- then you're a "jackass".

3) Alex doesn't read all of the communication from Mike- he just miraculously conjures up the gist and then tries to answer it in full- up until the point where he can't come up with any moar stories because they all fall flat like stone slabs- then it's "what do I care anyway?  I'm only the guy who made a big deal about it"


Alex- I must say- you're reaching.  Mike is ALWAYS the first to tell me who he considers good sellers that he's done business with- and he keeps quite an extensive list.  You can try to make people believe that Mike has it out for everyone he's ever bought from- but it's a total sham and an empty way to continue to deflect blame.


LOL- from your dp/neo forum spins-
"Alex here from Rising Stuff. When I wrote that letter I was having a pretty crappy day"...

Maybe you should have gone jogging that day, eh?

[SignOfZeta]

It is amusing that you get your piece in on page three- where you essentially not only AGREE with the posts regarding Rising's stupidity- "WTF, are they trying to be funny or something? I don't get it" but BEGIN a whole new thread of bitterness by blasting a former member who's no longer here to defend himself- "The guy is f*cking pathetic and needs help"- but then when posts follow further expounding on Rising's stupidity- on a thread entitled "Risingstuff.com"- that you ALREADY agreed with- that then it's time for everyone to chill out-

Is it actually beyond your comprehension that I think every side of this argument is totally insane? Do I really have to permanently align myself with one of these wack jobs? Is false dichotomy the only option?

RS don't have the slightest clue what they are doing when it comes to satisfying customers. Unless they learn from this they will never be businessmen...except in the telecom business, of course.

Mike is a looser who is psychotically obsessed with the underground video games sales and trades scene. The energy he devotes to this cause could be so much better spent on something else.

Nectarsis, evidently, has become Mike's sidekick...I hope that doesn't come with an outfit.



Being "negative" and being a vindictive vengeful eBay sheriff who literally follows people around the net and starts shit with them everywhere they can be found aren't the same thing. And Hitler...Hitler has nothing to do with this. I think, once again, that someone has taken things a bit to far, if Hitler has come into the story.

You people are so f*cking obsessed with the politics of who's on who's side, and who said what in a thread about how to solder or something years ago that you have strayed from the current topic.

And you type too much. Seriously, if you can't make your point in less than 10,000 words perhaps you are just spouting and don't have much of a point in the first place other than, "I'm the best, I win". I normally don't recommend psychiatry, or thesis statements, but in your guys' case...both may be called for.

RS isn't Buy Rite or Crazy Dion. They don't have the resources or the malevolency to commit that level of crime, and you guys aren't making the world a better place by rescuing us from them. RS should just fill or refund all the outstanding orders, TODAY, and see if anyone buys anything from them again. You guys have made your point, now go put your next door neighbor under citizens arrest for jay walking or something.

[Tablet]

Just thought I'd put my 2 cents in on this.

I remember when I first used rising stuff last year I ordered a few famicom games using PayPal as the payment method, order came and turned out that one of the games was wrong, I contacted them and they sent out a replacement, free of charge. I was fine with that mistakes can happen, I even offered to sent the wrong game back but they said I can keep it.

A few months later they had a few 6 button PCE controllers up for sale I decided to grab 2 of them, gone was the option to pay with PayPal, instead I had to sign up for a google checkout account... A bit of a pain considering I knew I'd never use the account again but I thought it'd be good to have to use with rising stuff if the pay by paypal option wasn't coming back. 

Some more time passes and I look to buy again, I don't remember what it was but I do remember when I got to the checkout that the option for google checkout was now gone too! The only option available now was to pay with credit card directly only (or use the paypal toolbar which isn't/wasn't available in the UK at the time)... something I refuse to do.

I haven't attempted to buy from them again although I will pop across every now and again just to see what's been listed. From my experiences I found that having to pay by a different payment method each and everytime I tried to buy something to be a little irksome, I don't mind when an order goes wrong (unless I'm buying for a birthday present and the delay means the replacement won't get to me in time) as long as it's sorted which in my case it was.

I can understand how some people have had problems with items not coming through etc. We're importing this stuff from another country and no matter how much tracking you put on a package they can still go missing and do. As for the rather questionable business practices mentioned previous and in other threads linked, if it's all true, the selling of items they don't have in stock and sending warning letters to users who voice their own opinions and experiences then they should be thankful they're having the 'best year so far' even with all this negative PR.

Lack of consistency is keeping me away from future purchases and will continue to do so.

[Sinistron]

You guys have made your point, now go put your next door neighbor under citizens arrest for jay walking or something.

We'll make as many points as we care to make as long as it's on topic- who the fvck are you anyway? The Grand Salami?  You're about as effective a policeman as Alice the Goon- maybe it's you who should settle down and take off the cowboy hat and dual cap gun set with holster belt.  You had your say- you said your piece, several pieces on the matter in fact- now take off the principle's shoes because no one's going to listen to your SETTLE DOWN PEOPLE schtick.  Hell did you expect anyway?  "YES MASTER ZETA- YOU ARE SOO RIGHT- WE WILL ALL NOW STOP TALKING ABOUT THIS- ESPECIALLY AFTER YOU'VE HAD YOUR SAY AS YOUR SAY IS THE FINAL ICING ON ONLY THE MOST DELICIOUS OF CAKES"?  It's equally as absurd as Mike rolling over to Alex's E-lawyer threat which you pointed out.

Furthermore- you can keep trying to pin on my friend the title of "looser" when he isn't here to defend himself- but if you took a poll on how many here considered you a winner- you may be the only one surprised by the results.