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[nat]

Zeon pretty much summed up the situation better than I could have, but that is exactly what happened with Nintega and why he isn't allowed back here anymore. He was given many chances; in retrospect, I gave him too many. And that, perhaps, is the real crime in this whole fiasco.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[Game and Watch Kirby]

I have not, in my consideration, wasted any time on him. I could not simply let such statements go unanswered, especially since he asked me a few questions that I can answer. He may listen to me more than some of the others since he does seem to somewhat consider me as a friend. Be careful on how you write his name, as it's spelled as a combination of the words Nintendo and Sega; therefore, there isn't an N after the E. I had first though his name was spelled that way, but had realized on my own that it wasn't after a close examination. It's true that there are many others like him, but they are sometimes best ignored when they do perform foolish antics.

Actually that was a typo on my part, stupid keyboard!

And as far as messaging to answer questions him that's fine, I just thought I would give you a heads up on his method of operation. AFAIK I was never considered "disliked" by Nintega, until the near the end when I just plain gave up and responded to his bs, with bs right back. Maybe you can do something no one else has managed to do, and make him change for the better, though don't hold your breath, because chances are he will wear you out. Like I said he would start out most times, behaving and actually contributing something positive to the discussion, then all of the sudden...BAM insta negative, aggressive, the world is out to get me mode. Once when, oldskool joined up and made a post of the tg-16 haul he made, Nintega started saying stuff like, "I hate you!" and "What kind of friend give you a system with problems?". (quotes are approximate) We called him out on his behavior, and gave him plenty of chances to amend it, but he just kept digging himself deeper. If you look at the shoutbox history (if you can get it to completely load without crashing your browser, it's freaking huge), you can see nobody ever outright attacked him, or said anything negative about him UNTIL he started to fling crap. Near the beginning of his time on pcfx.com, we excused it, told him that we don't want that sort of behavior here, and tried to even give him advise. We were kind and civil with him at first, but it was all for naught. No matter how much we did so, it was a never ending viscous cycle of:

fine -> trolling -> warning -> "Ok I'll behave" and back to the beginning again.

When it became apparent he was an one act show, we very quickly grew tired of his antics, some more than others. Really I'd be more than happy for him to come back if and ONLY if he actually would change his ways and talk like in normal civilized manner all the time, instead of degrading to what often amounted to personal attacks, and not dropping the subject. However given his past track record this is extremely likely to happen, and I'm not willing to let him back on pcfx.com to find out. He had his chance (actually more like 10) and every time he screwed up.

When you warn a child about their behavior, but never punish them, do they ever stop? Most likely not, what kid would stop doing something he or she was doing because a grown-up is just warning them? Sometimes the kid doesn't even understand what is wrong with their behavior, so why should they stop? It's not until they see the prospect of some real punishment that they will be motivated to stop. However often punishment alone is not enough, you need to teach the child WHY their behavior was inappropriate, and the child must actually learn why. Otherwise it's just a cycle of misbehaving -> punishment -> misbehaving -> punishment ->  so on.

Nintega is much like that kid, except he doesn't grow up or learn, as he is proven by his stalking youtube accounts, after being banned. Obviously banning him isn't punishment enough to make him want to change. Most importantly of all though is that he doesn't think that he has actually done anything wrong and thinks he is being treated unfairly. See the similarity in his cycle and the one in the example about the child?

But we aren't singling him out, he broke rules, and choose to continue breaking them even after being warned several times, so we dealt with him like we would any other member doing the same thing. Why would we be singling him out unless there was something he was doing to make us "attack" him as he feels is happening? Because he's fat? No that makes no sense OldSchoolGamer told us that he is very fat himself. Maybe it's because he's young? Nah I'm 21 and we have others that are younger, and we get along just fine. Maybe it's because he lives in a small backwater town. Nope I also live in a small backwater town, though currently am not there as I am attending college. Missa lives in a very small in the middle of nowhere town too. Maybe because we think he is a loser and because he loves to play games and has no girlfriend? Nope can't be it either, I am a huge video game nerd, probably bigger than Nintega, and have no girlfriend, so that rules that out.

The matter of the fact is no one is singling him out, like I stated he broke rules and his behavior and conduct was inappropriate. If someone else did the same, guess what? They would get the same treatment. It's really not that hard to get along with us at all.

P.S. He did mention being bi-polar, and if so that may explain part of his behavior, but not excuse it. He often tried using it as a crutch a to why he was such an ass most of the time, though again that doesn't make it ok.

Zeon pretty much summed up the situation better than I could have, but that is exactly what happened with Nintega and why he isn't allowed back here anymore. He was given many chances; in retrospect, I gave him too many. And that, perhaps, is the real crime in this whole fiasco.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

I've pretty much have known on the ordeal for quite a while now from asking Sinistron, Michael Helgeson (now PC-ENGINE HELL), and Nectarsis a while ago, as well as my own observations. Is it truly possible for a regular user to view the Shoutbox Archive somehow? I would really be interested in veiwing segments of it (such as entire days) if I were to do so . I think the "bi-polar" condition was just an excuse, but he might be really sensitive to insults, and tries to get only positive feelings to the best of his abilities (I certainly can be at times, but it doesn't affect me that drastically when it is on the Internet; real-life situation definitely were when I was younger).

[Keranu]

This forum has gone to hell.

[MotherGunner]

This forum has gone to hell.

Audie Murphy!

[Keranu]

This forum has gone to hell.

Audie Murphy!

Hey did you get my PM? Just making sure.

[MotherGunner]

I sure did Keranu, thanks a bunch.  I will try to use photoshop and clean bonk up a little bit and try to get a t-shirt done up.

Would be sweet.

[Keranu]

Cool, would love to see that.

[Game and Watch Kirby]

Well, he asked for it, so I will post up a conversation through private messages on YouTube that I had with Nintega the past couple of days. He read this board in question and was ashamed about my posts, apparantly.

I read everything. Pity. We could have been good friends. Way to f*ck up.

If you'd read everything that was written on that board, didn't you consider about your behavior towards the members during the past few weeks or so, especially from the words of the others?

I am in no way looking to be friends (or enemies) with you, and I haven't really had any intention to insult you; as Guyjin was asking for information in the forum subject, I had provided what was seeked for: information about you that could have potentially lead to the mishap that him and Sinistron went through whilst supposedly doing business with you. It was wrong of you to go and attack Tatsujin around last week, as he didn't even do anything to up to that point. If you just stopped going after them, THEY WILL LEAVE YOU ALONE. That's the aspect you're doing to create these types of fights among you and them. They are really nice folks (and I can definitely speak from my personal experience, as some are also friends I've met on YouTube, too), but they can't trust you because you would act up sooner or later that would cause a great deal of arguments. Some of them even gave you multiple chances, AND EVERYTIME, YOU CAUSED TROUBLE THAT MADE EVERYBODY ANGRY AND HAVE A DISLIKE AGAINST YOU. It can't be said that you've never made any rude statements either on the Shoutbox since there is an archive kept on every statement that has ever been made on it (supposedly, and I think a portion of it can be requested).

Here's what I can suggest for you: If someone insults you and you wish to avoid getting hurt by it, you can either just ignore it or block the person who did it (that's the type of advice Akutare gives for dealing with trolls), and if you see an offender in any circumstances, don't bother with them, just leave them alone otherwise you can get emotionally hurt. If you handle those types of situations differently, you wouldn't have gotten into the many bad situations that you had. IF YOU WANT TO DELETE THIS PRIVATE MESSAGE, LIKE YOU'VE DONE TO MY CHANNEL COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THE ONES YOU'VE MADE ON MINE, KEEP IN MIND YOU WOULD BE MISSING OUT ON READING/REVIEWING SOME IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND ADVICE.

I am going to be honest for once. It was all my fault. It started when I was complaining about Nat's progress with my modded PCE Duo (which is now broken). Then Mike brought his 2 cents in stating I should start acting like a man. I got pissed off and decided to take one of his pictures with one of his children (which I found out shortly) and made it look like he was stealing candy from a random kid. That was when the whole mess started.

I let my problems get the best of me. I am the kind of person that is always in defense mode because not many people outside of my family has ever done a damn thing to help me in any way, but would rather degrade me just to make themeselves happy. That is why I have the mentally that people are out to get me. This isn't a pity act. This is coming from my heart.

Go tell this to everyone at PCEFX. I am 100% sure these "very nice people" will laugh and make jokes about my personal problems.

I've tried speaking in a way that would be forceful and easy for him to understand, and apparantly it worked. Even if in the event that you don't believe him, please be careful about what you say about him (again, being sensitive about criticisms).

[nectarsis]

Funny that he expects us "very nice people" to laugh and make jokes about his personal problems when that is the EXACT thing he claims he all do here (whine, and bitch about our lives/problems).  The hypocritical BS, and double standards that come out of him are beyond reason, or common sense.  He thinks if he claims it's his fault all is forgiven.  Yet in a wekk or so (prob less) he will revert to the same old immature actions. ACTIONS speak louder than the words we KEEP hearing over and over.  Even my kids know that "sorry" doesn't mean squat unless they CHANGE what they did wrong.  We have yet to see that )much less have it last) from Ninny for more than a day or two.

[Necromancer]

Indeed, nectarsis; Nintega's current mea culpa is merely an echo of his numerous previous admissions of fault.  If he truly wishes to amend his ways, he can quit attacking members of this site and move on with his life.  Sadly, I doubt that'll happen and before the month is out, we'll see him lambasting various members again.

I've tried speaking in a way that would be forceful and easy for him to understand, and apparantly it worked. Even if in the event that you don't believe him, please be careful about what you say about him (again, being sensitive about criticisms).

This a$$hole very nice person stopped caring about his personal problems long ago, as he's just using them as an excuse for his poor behavior.  Besides, his problems here didn't arise from him being defensive, but rather from him going on the offensive (e.g. - commending your ability to f*ck up or that back handed remark about nat's mod).

[Michael Helgeson]

Yea, on some vid comment he is asking me to unblock him, so we can talk.... I fail to see why I would want to, other then to give him the ability to spam my inbox and vids that are posted. He states he is for change again today, but also today he was attempting to use the new id DAFACCISTUFBRUKALEEN to spam Sinis second video he posted with Nazi/Hitler comments. He talks change with one hand and with the other does the same old tired shit. Hes def got a multitasking split personality.

[Lord Thag]

Good lord, this doofus is still stirring up controversy? Seems like every time I jump on it's the continuing saga of the Nintega chronicles. Just ignore him, and he will seek attention elsewhere.

[ceti alpha]

Yea, on some vid comment he is asking me to unblock him, so we can talk.... I fail to see why I would want to, other then to give him the ability to spam my inbox and vids that are posted. He states he is for change again today, but also today he was attempting to use the new id DAFACCISTUFBRUKALEEN to spam Sinis second video he posted with Nazi/Hitler comments. He talks change with one hand and with the other does the same old tired shit. Hes def got a multitasking split personality.

Jebus. Man, it's always the act of the desperate to bring up Nazis and the Holocaust in order to win an argument. First Ben Stein, now Nintega.

[Banana]

Zeon pretty much summed up the situation better than I could have, but that is exactly what happened with Nintega and why he isn't allowed back here anymore. He was given many chances; in retrospect, I gave him too many. And that, perhaps, is the real crime in this whole fiasco.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Don't think for a sec that PC-ENGINE HELL aka MIKE HELGESON is a vitcim here. Look what he posted on shoutbox today.

[Mon 06:37] <PC-ENGINE HELL> so what happened to you Ninny, did your dad just beat you senseless a tad too much?

[Mon 06:40] <PC-ENGINE HELL> and  seriously, wtf is wrong with you that you feel its ok to try to trick people into thinking you are someone else here?

[Mon 06:41] <Banana> Because I don't trust you

[Mon 06:41] <PC-ENGINE HELL> oh wait, are you threatening to take members with you lol? The oh so great and important Nintega,making threats lol

[Mon 06:42] <Banana> no people will grow tired of you complaining about me and close their accounts.

[Mon 06:43] <Banana> Get over it. What happened in the past should stay in the past.

[Mon 06:43] <Banana> MOVE ON

[Mon 06:43] <PC-ENGINE HELL> you are THE most worthless sack of shit to ever come here,EVER


Oh and gets even better..... Check out that really sweet comment Sinistron gave me.


[Mon 06:46] <Sinistron> the a$$hole saying "MOVE ON" what a f*cking total DICK this kid is

[Mon 06:50] <Sinistron> I am Italian- I live in an italian neighborhood- and I have at least ten people in my neighborhood begging me for your address

If those comments aren't bannable offensives I don't know what is.

[Sinistron]

yeah so offensive- that was in reply to one of his numerous fake youtube accounts where he was just f*cking with me to be an obssessive jerkoff- and where he said that I hated Italians- so I was like ummm hello- my last name is Sinisi. 

And yeah- obviously everyone knows by now that this Banana clown is Nintega- who was permanently banned and yet keeps managing to slip in through the mail slot with different IP's- and Nin- no need showing everyone select portions of the shout- Mike has made sure that the people who need to know have been pm'ed the major bulk of it.