Author Topic: pc engine region mod problem  (Read 738 times)

TH0R

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 121
pc engine region mod problem
« on: November 30, 2008, 06:44:46 PM »
got a region modded pce withe the cd unit and the interface, us hucards work, but nothing jp works, the mod is done with a white push button and the jp games just throw up a white screen

Duo_R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3302
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 09:49:57 PM »
something isn't right on the JP side. I would first start with the region switch and check the wiring. Is this a PCB mod or just a 8PDT switch? If you have a ohm-meter just start testing the lines. You can see the theory behind the region mod on my website (if it is a 8PDT switch).
Add my YouTube channel:


For sale trade list: http://tinyurl.com/2csm7kq

agt_dale_cooper

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 05:06:35 AM »
JAP games don't work?  I could understand the white screen on the USA side (no Pin 29 grounding), but not on the JAP side.

If USA cards work, the switch HAS to be wired correctly...right?  All the switch does is switch the lines back and forth...if a line is out of whack, the whole thing wouldn't work...

There's some bit of information missing here, methinks...sounds like a PCB job with something amiss, I don't think 8PDT is available in a push-button...let's see a pic!!!

Necromancer

  • Global Moderator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 21366
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 05:41:49 AM »
I don't think 8PDT is available in a push-button...let's see a pic!!!


Push button switches are the only type I've ever seen installed for a region mod (clicky).  If THOR's mod does use one of these, it could easily be incorrectly wired or have a loose wire.
U.S. Collection: 97% complete    155/159 titles

TH0R

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 121
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 09:28:09 AM »
i've opened it up and DAMN...that's why i didn't want to try it myself...there's a ribbon from the bottom of the card slot going to the pcb board...see some black wiring taped together separate from this but still looks connected... how can i upload some pictures, i've had problems with size being too large

Duo_R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3302
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 10:14:21 AM »
the 8PDT region switches can either be a slide switch or a pushbutton (these days pushbutton is more common). Sounds like yours is a PCB install though, upload pictures through imageshack (just google that). If that doesn't work email me the photos (look at my sig, you will see my email address in the webiste URL).

Also, the comment about it having to work all or nothing - not true. You could have the US region side all wired properly, but the JP side not working on a region switch. This would most likely be the jumper wires having an issue, if the US side is working (I can post more pics to explain).

However, this sounds like PCB. Send pictures to confirm.



i've opened it up and DAMN...that's why i didn't want to try it myself...there's a ribbon from the bottom of the card slot going to the pcb board...see some black wiring taped together separate from this but still looks connected... how can i upload some pictures, i've had problems with size being too large
« Last Edit: December 01, 2008, 10:16:28 AM by Duo_R »
Add my YouTube channel:


For sale trade list: http://tinyurl.com/2csm7kq

hoobs88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1508
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 02:27:38 PM »
Thor, where did you get your region modded PCE? I recently purchased one too but haven't checked to see if it works on the interface.
1 title needed for a complete US Turbo Grafx collection: Magical Chase

Parasol Stars High Score = 119,783,770
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9292.0

League of Legends Summoner Name = DeviousSideburns

TH0R

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 121
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 02:32:09 PM »
ebay... #-o

Duo_R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3302
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 02:35:14 PM »
if u post up some pics I can try to help u out. Look at all the solder connections, the wires, etc.
Add my YouTube channel:


For sale trade list: http://tinyurl.com/2csm7kq

hoobs88

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1508
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2008, 06:07:18 AM »
1 title needed for a complete US Turbo Grafx collection: Magical Chase

Parasol Stars High Score = 119,783,770
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=9292.0

League of Legends Summoner Name = DeviousSideburns

TH0R

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 121
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2008, 04:19:55 PM »
 gamedoctorhk( 868) 
Feedback: 99.4 % Positive
Member: since Jan-27-01 in Hong Kong
Registered as a individual seller 
 ... the system is in pretty good condition, pce is filthy inside  and a bit yellow , cd unit might be filthy inside...some gray stains...dried up detergent?

agt_dale_cooper

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2008, 07:22:50 AM »
I traced the wiring on the switch, I rescind my statement about it not working at all if not wired correctly....working in whatever mode the un-jumpered wires were installed in, and NOT working due to faulty jumpers is indeed a possibility.

Nice to see 8PDT switches available just at the click of a button (pardon the pun)...I couldn't find them in the wild back when I looked, let alone in push-button style.
How the frell does one mount one of those push-buttons, anyway?  Doesn't look like a lot of space for epoxy to adhere to....?

[Still waiting for pics of this install, BTW...]

Duo_R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3302
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2008, 08:51:05 AM »
the popular switch buttons have a screw and threading that will help hold it in place. I have a couple that don't have that setup so epoxy would be needed (trickier to install). My favorite of course is the sliding switch, but those are rare these days.
Add my YouTube channel:


For sale trade list: http://tinyurl.com/2csm7kq

Platinumfungi

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 260
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2008, 01:24:08 AM »
Besides the 8pdt switch method you could use multiplexer/demultiplexer ICs and a simple slide switch.

Duo_R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3302
Re: pc engine region mod problem
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2008, 02:07:28 PM »
well unless someone is builiding PCB's with IC's these days, I would say that is more work.
Add my YouTube channel:


For sale trade list: http://tinyurl.com/2csm7kq