TG-16 in Top 5 Forgotten Consoles..bout time

[MotherGunner]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29396500/?pg=1#games_top5_090219_forgotten_consoles

[Sparky]

I was agreeing until i saw the gamecube? & the Commodore is a bit of a stretch as a console but i guess a lot of gaming took place back in the day on those, i would not know as i was one of those poor bastards that had a TRS 80 

[Necromancer]

Thanks for the article full of fail; I needed a good laugh.  First off, the C64 wasn't a game console and subsequently doesn't belong on this list.  Secondly, the Saturn/TG-16/Gamecube/Dreamcast were commercial failures but not exactly forgotten, so why do they belong on this list when the likes of the Jaguar, 3DO, and 5200 go unnoticed?  Lastly, the Dreamcast "being the first-ever console to play online" makes me giggle.  This lame-ass-author-tool might want to stick to writing articles about subjects he actually knows, or at least learn how to do a bit o' research.

[guyjin]

Thanks for the article full of fail; I needed a good laugh.  First off, the C64 wasn't a game console and subsequently doesn't belong on this list.

Well, there was the C64GS, which is a console (even though it's really just a regular c64 w/o the keyboard, and with a cart slot)
but I'd hardly say it was forgotten. it was one of the best selling computers of all time. the XEGS would be a more appropriate entry.

Secondly, the Saturn/TG-16/Gamecube/Dreamcast were commercial failures but not exactly forgotten, so why do they belong on this list when the likes of the Jaguar, 3DO, and 5200 go unnoticed?

Because it's the _top_ 5 forgotten consoles. (though the 3d0's exclusion is indeed onerous)

Lastly, the Dreamcast "being the first-ever console to play online" makes me giggle.

umm, isn't it?

[Necromancer]

Because it's the _top_ 5 forgotten consoles. (though the 3d0's exclusion is indeed onerous)

The key word is forgotten.  None of those four qualify when compared to the truly forgotten and neglected consoles.

umm, isn't it?

No; the NetLink, Satellaview, XBand, and surely others beat it to the punch.  Perhaps he meant that it's 'the first-ever console to play online natively', but it's silly to make such a distinction.  Actually, the Dreamcast might be the only console with a built-in modem, as the later consoles all had add-on adapters or Ethernet.

[Keranu]

Pippin @World/Atmark had a built-in modem, didn't it?

[Necromancer]

Pippin @World/Atmark had a built-in modem, didn't it?

I do not know human, but considering its computer roots, it may well have.

[guyjin]

No; the NetLink, Satellaview, XBand, and surely others beat it to the punch.  Perhaps he meant that it's 'the first-ever console to play online natively', but it's silly to make such a distinction.  Actually, the Dreamcast might be the only console with a built-in modem, as the later consoles all had add-on adapters or Ethernet.

the Saturn Netlink was just a modem that connected one saturn to another; playing games via the internet was not possible (though web browsing was.) X-band was a proprietary network, and satellaview was a one-way download service. none of these things qualify as "online" to me.

[spenoza]

I concur. The Netlink, Xband, et al were not about playing on-line, via the actual intarwebz.

[Necromancer]

the Saturn Netlink was just a modem that connected one saturn to another; playing games via the internet was not possible (though web browsing was.) X-band was a proprietary network, and satellaview was a one-way download service. none of these things qualify as "online" to me.

The term 'online' isn't limited to the internet, but rather describes a system which is connected to a larger network.  The physical network actually used should be irrelevant, as the end result was that two (or more) consoles were participating in the same game yet from separate locations.

[WoodyXP]

First off, the C64 wasn't a game console and subsequently doesn't belong on this list. 

Word life.. and the C64 was the ultimate gaming computer in it's time.  Nobody forgot that bad-ass.

What a sorry article.

[MotherGunner]

Jesus....

some of you have an attitude like the economy....."ugly"

Calm down.

[guyjin]

The term 'online' isn't limited to the internet, but rather describes a system which is connected to a larger network.  The physical network actually used should be irrelevant, as the end result was that two (or more) consoles were participating in the same game yet from separate locations.

true. However, you don't get long distance fees for playing Dreamcast games for hours.

[Joe Redifer]

I forgot about the TurboGrafx-16.  Thanks for reminding me, NMCSB or whoever you are!

[MotherGunner]

I think the point is being missed.  I re-read the article and I don't think "forgotten" is being used with ill will.

In fact, the subtitle is "These neglected game systems are also some of the most endearing" so the author clearly views them in a positive light.